Is voxy really better than Distant Horizons?

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In this video, i talked about the unpopular LOD mod called "voxy" and compared it with the well known Distant Horizons to see, which one is better and if voxy is really better than DH.

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Interesting video, although to address a few things:

Voxy is incredible and Cortex deserves massive kudos, I'm routinely blown away by what she's done.

1:09 - DH uses the GPU for rendering.
DH uses the CPU for LOD generation and processing (which is quite intensive) but uses the GPU for rendering.
That being said Voxy is probably more efficient at using the GPU than DH because Cortex is crazy good with OpenGL (the rendering API MC uses).

3:09 - DH's extreme quality preset is very VRAM hungry and isn't really recommended for normal play.
At DH's medium preset you can run 1024 render distance with only 4 GB of ram (although 6-8 is recommended if you use the world generator).
The reason your RAM usage went above what you allocated for MC is because the number you set only defines Java's Heap size, which is one of several places Java can allocate memory, and if DH needs more VRAM than your GPU has it'll start spilling into system memory.


Thanks for giving both DH and Voxy a fair shot and great job with the editing, the video looked incredible.

- James

Distant_Horizons
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I think distant horizons and voxy should make out and make the best lod mod together

MARUTITOXDAnimaciones
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"not that much ram" said by a 64gb ram user, is a terrifyingly huge amount

apoi__
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voxy is more similiar to nvidium than distant horizons

Hugowertop
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voxy can import world data to LoD using "/voxy import" command. And you can pregenerate world with mods like Chunky

AxiL
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voxy's logo looks like a fallout computer

Memeikonn
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I am sorry but 32GB of RAM defeats the whole purpose of the test. That is way too much. With this much RAM, the Java garbage collector plays a major role in the amount of lag you experience. Even if Voxy is better in the same conditions, these conditions are nothing you can compare something in. You should do another test with 8GB and if Voxy is better then I can agree with you but not in these conditions.

moritz_p
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Bro called me broke in 12 languages casually dropping 32gb of ram

(Edit: My currency is MAD (USD*10) so don't even say how cheap it is)

SDZeeAy
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1:50 holy shit, bro casually just dropped the cleanest mining transition.

Cretor.
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Voxy had better frame rates in your test because it was rendering less chunks, you can clearly see how the far plane wasn't present on Voxy at 3:54
same reason for ram usage, which, btw, lower ram usage does not mean better performance, it is quite the opposite, unused available ram means useless ram, while ram in use means things are pre-loaded and ready to be used when needed

lugui
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Jesus Christ, my dude, take a breath! This is like the longest run-on sentence ever.
Actually quite exhausting to listen to.

Yotanido
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distant horizons should have an gpu option fr

Respear
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I'd recommend to use chunky to pregen the 256 chunks first (maybe with c2me and noisium to speed it up), and then do a realistic comparison of the LOD building speed and performance at the full 256 chunks, that will really show you how impressive voxy can be.

For this you can set distant horizons to build LODs only for existing chunks, and for voxy you can import the pregenerated region files using /voxy import [world name]

NeseComedy
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You ruined your experiment by allocating 32GB of RAM to the game. Java can’t handle anything more than 12 or so and you will never need that much. When you allocate that much RAM, Java doesn’t know what to do with it so it puts pressure on your disk, causing lag spikes and other issues.

Also, both mods should be used with a render distance of 8-12.

Furthermore, the only reason Minecraft appeared to use all the RAM you allocated is because you told it to. It would have been fine on 8-10GB for example.

Shadow.Tech
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Also right now DH doesn't load its own chunks when on a server (similar to foxy)

Angryslimee
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The problem I see with this video is that you failed to make it obvious that Voxy is in an extremely early alpha. It has bugs, missing features, and other issues and the only reason for that is because it's in very early development, and it's also made by one person - Cortex. Voxy started development around 5 months ago by just Cortex, and Distant Horizons started development around 3 years ago by multiple people. You should have atleast stated that Voxy was in an alpha stage.

You also shouldn't have allocated 32GiB of RAM. Java's GC will start struggling after around even like 10GiB, as it doesn't need that much. It won't know what to do with the ram, and the GC will take longer to fully run since it has more to deal with, which results in much longer freezing and decreased performance. You should have probably allocated say, 6-8GiB. Vanilla and LOD mods don't typically need that much, especially Voxy as I think it uses your GPU's VRAM? (correct me if I'm wrong of course)

You also should have used maybe 12-16 chunks render distance instead of 32 as any past that won't be necessary since the point of these mods is so that you can run at a lower distance and still see visuals in the world far away.

Voxy doesn't have a generator because, once again, it pretty much just started development. It's crazy to see how much Cortex has done in this little amount of time. The generator is a very complex thing to develop and, honestly I don't see it necessary. Personally I would just use Chunky to pregenerate a large area of the world and then use the Voxy's `/voxy import` command to generate the LODs. It's way less to program and I think makes more sense anyway.

I do really like the video's editing and cinematography, it looks great! I just wanted to point out a few things that could have been improved in the video. I don't think Youtubers realize how much impact they can make to the reputation of something, and saying this type of stuff about Voxy or DH could hurt the reputation which is especially bad because both mods are still in alpha and are being worked on and improved constantly

yac
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it doesnt matter if voxy doesn't generate chunks.

since preloading all chunks with a mod like Chunky is something you should do before playing minecraft with LOD mods anyways.

HownBrash
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man this guy never breaths while talking

errorhostnotfound
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doesnt feel like a fair comparison. I'd like to see chunky pregeneration and vram usage

pongsapaksajjapong
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2:14 bro just called me poor in a hundred languages 😂

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