Israel & Palestine - Manny Man Does History

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Written and created by JOHN D RUDDY @johndruddy
Illustrated, voiced and edited by JOHN D RUDDY @johndruddy

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Thanks for the video, Ruddy, and i hope you had a happy Easter

TheDragonborn
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23:50 denmark was able to save 95% of their Jewish population due to germany's diplomat to Denmark warned the resistance that Germany would roundup all the Jews, he even was the one to get Sweden accept the jews

veronicatoothpaste
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1: After witnessing Jewish people harrassed by Palestine supports. That ruined any sympathy, I have for Palestine.

2: Bold of you to assume that Palestine will let the Jews, Queer people, and other religious minorities keep their rights when they commit jihad.

cameroncampbell
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I’m a little annoyed of the description of the first Aliyah in 1880 and the portrayal of Russias pogroms against the Jews as a reaction to Jewish emancipation across Europe is just wrong.

The violence against the Jew was caused by the assassination of tsar Alexander the second in 1881 by an anti-monarchist group and the Russian peasants naturally blamed the Jew which lead to the violence.

Also, that comment from the Arab, “aren’t you guys Russians” is misleading. The Jews in Russia were not Russians. They were Jews they were distinctly separate and treated as such. Jews weren’t allowed to live in Russia proper they had to live in the pale of settlements (modern day this refers to Latvia Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus, the eastern half of Poland, and a good chunk of Ukraine.

bentrinker
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Lovely content, but I do have to say some things are somewhat misleading....

Jews in Arab states werent "encouraged" by Israel to leave. In what is in many ways a reverse Nakba, the Arab states they lived in relentlessly persecuted them and forced them out.

The 1948 Arab Israeli war was the result of the Jewish state declaring its independence, but also all neighbouring Arab Nations and Palestinians absolutrly refusing the UN compromise which drew the borders, something Israel accepted.

Now these borders suited Israel just fine, and the Palestinians saw some of the land granted to the Jews as theirs (which to be fair, some was).

Regardless, the bloodshed and violence needs to end. What the Israeli government is currently doing in Gaza is horrific, and so were the attacks made by Hamas.

Too many people have died. The only way we can live together is to put this all behind us.

natethenoble
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2:47 I've just started watching this video, I had to pause it to say thanks for the mention, Mr Ruddy. I'm sure your special take on history will do this conflict justice, and thanks for making content like this free to watch. With support from New Zealand 🇳🇿.

29/8/24 edit: well, I just heard the news about the west bank attack... the white kite metaphor is only getting more real 😔

majesticfirebird
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as a 13 year old israeli who grew up with a famliy that hates the govermant and learned as much as i could about this conflict for almost a year, who have been through scary experiences before, i really hope that my generation would be the end of this conflict.

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I need to actually clarify the "migration" claim regarding the Jews in the middle east


Whilst it is true many Jews did come into Israel after the establishment of the State in 1948, they usually found themselves in the same situation as the Palestinians during the Nakba

It's estimated 900, 000 to over a Million Jews were expelled from their homes in Muslim majority countries, reasons can vary including;

Not able to own property, not able to work or even have a living, not able to practice their religion

Most of Israel's population is mainly Middle Eastern Jews, such as those from Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Sudan ETC.

Friendly reminder; compared to the Middle East not allowing Jews to practice their religion in public or even at all, there are churches, mosques, synagogues etc, all in Israel so people of all faiths can practice their religions

The Jews weren't convinced to migrate to Israel, they were FORCED to, EXPELLED, an Ethnic Cleansing if you will

redactedagentdataexpunged
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A very very important point to make is: the philistins mentioned in the video and the palestinians of today have nothing to do with each other, they are completely different groups.

shakkedadi
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17:16 - "kibbutz" is a Hebrew word, not Yiddish

shneurzcups
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A half-truth is even more dangerous than a lie. A lie, you can detect at some stage, but half a truth is sure to mislead you for long.

tenkag
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Thank you so much for creating this. I generally have a good grasp on the history around topics like this, but you have unearthed so much more detail that I was totally unaware of. Please keep up all your efforts in everything - one of if not the best video you have ever created. Thanks again.

naomijoymorgan
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Could you make a video about the Spanish Civil War?

adriacortesabad
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At 18:22 he says that the Balfour declaration recognized a future Jewish home on Arab land. When did it become “Arab” land?? It might be properly referred to as Ottoman land, but not Arab. To call it Arab is setting up a false narrative that pervades the rest of the video. What is worse is at 20:39, the word Palestinian is used to describe the Muslim anti-Zionist population. This is highly misleading and historically inaccurate. All the people who lived in “Palestine” were Palestinian. This included Christian Palestinians, Jewish Palestinians and Muslim Palestinians. The use of the term “Palestinian” to refer only to the Muslim Palestinians was a new term coined by Yassir Arafat. It has a deeply political appeal because it allowed the Palestinian Muslims to label themselves with the land at the exclusion of the Jewish Palestinians and the Christian Palestinians. Golda Meir, an early Prine Minister of Israel, called herself a Palestinian Jew. This commandeering of the word “Palestinian” was a trick of the tongue and one this presenter uses for the rest of the film to further a misleading narrative. It right away sows the seed that the “Palestinians” from which the Jews were unilaterally excluded, are associated with the land and the Jews are not. Labels matter. “Pro Life” Americans could just as easily be called “anti-Abortion rights” but they developed and use the term “pro life” to frame the narrative. Those who co-opted the term “Palestinian” did so for their own political purposes. A true historian might still use the term “Palestinian (since that term has been so successfully tied yo only the Muslim Palestinians) but must explain the use of the term and its qualifications. Failing to do this makes the reporter complicit in excluding the Jews, an intentional or unintentional act that is, at the very least, negligent. He then commits a heinous act by, at 23:42, including the deaths of Soviet Civilians and other collateral casualties of war as “Holocaust Victims.” No. These were victims of war, not the Holocaust. In no legitimate historical text, do we see civilian deaths in WWII listed as Holocaust victims. That “distinction” is reserved for the Jews, Gypsies and others who were persecuted on the basis of their identity. Other deaths of civilians are casualties of war. This also is no mistake by the author. This is precisely what antisemites do when they try to dilute the Jewish nature of the Holocaust. At 25:23, he explains that the UN proposed a partition plan but “none of this was implemented as it sparked a civil war between the Jews and Arabs….” Oh geez! It was never implemented because it was flatly rejected by the Palestinian Muslims. I guess he forgot to mention that. He then points out that the fighting happened “as the 2/3 majority Arabs would be getting less than half of the land.” Kind of true but misleading. Most of the land allocated to the Jews was the unpopulated, arid Sinai desert which had been left unpopulated and was deemed not arable by the Muslims. He soon goes on to state that the Arab states invaded Israel but what pushed the Arabs out was an Israeli victory. This is false. What pushed many Arabs out was the war started by the invasion. In fact, there exist today the news accounts from the invading Arab states whose leaders urged the Muslims to pack up and get out in advance of the invasion and that they will soon be able to return after the Jews are defeated. The historical inaccuracies are manifest throughout this video. I stopped watching at 25:44.

scott-soul-cough
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I'd give this history a "Mostly Accurate but cherry picked" for example Liberia was built by former slaves who wanted to leave the US and Americas one of the concepts founders being Fredrick Douglass

chuckecheese
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You're very brave, John! Thank you for the video!

historicalminds
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27:01 I'm a descendant of Iraqi Jews and so I can tell you without a doubt it wasn't Israeli encouragement that convinced my grandparents to flee Iraq.
It was the governing powers within Iraq persecuting jews with most of their life long friends and neighbors turning on them as well (partially as a result of pan-arabism which I noticed was completely neglected to be mentioned in the video).
I disagree with the statement that Israel is a colonial state, but even if you view it's foundation as such you'd have to agree it had become a refuge for persecuted Jews worldwide.

thescrew
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27:00 Might be important to mention that many were expelled from where they lived for centuries…

nersharific
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I noticed there is no mention of the leader of the Arabs in Palestine; Amin Al Husseini, who was an actual Nazi who was prosecuted by the Allies post-war for collaborating with Hitler, notwithstanding conveniently leaving that part out; the creator also left out the extensive persecution of Jews in arab nations before the founding of the state of Israel (eg. The Farhud, lack of property rights and pogroms in North Africa); the fact the Arabs rejected every single 2 state solution offered to them including the peel Commission and the UN resolution, and they seem to have completely fabricated the United states arming Israel in the 1940s when in reality whilst they recognized Israel straight away they held an arms embargo against both sides for the duration of the conflict.

It is important to note the British actually supported the Arab armies far more in the 1948 war with British officers directing some of the more elite Jordanian army units so I'm not sure where the idea of Britain as their "overlord" comes from, furthermore, they reneged on the Balfour declaration by appointing to Husseini as the leader of Jerusalem AGAIN conveniently left out here. Not telling the whole truth is tantamount to lying when studying history.

This man should really stick to drawing Pokemon tutorials

benjaminfleming
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Thank you John. It feels sometimes that there are some people who are not learning from the mistakes of the past, and are continuing to let dehumanisation take hold of their fears. We should all stand together, not tear each other apart. I seems to be the only way we can bring an end to this horror.

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