The Iroquois Confederacy

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"Deluge," by Cellophane Sam
"Hallon," by Christian Bjoerklund

[trueknick]

As a resident of New York State, we were forced to learn about the Iroquois(Haudenosaunee) peoples in school at an early age. This video really makes me appreciate their peoples and how complex but fascinating the political systems they had into place, more than I ever did as a younger kid. Keep up the great work, the videos are fantastic and I will always support you on Patreon as long as you keep them coming!!

[KingsandGenerals]

A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.

[cleothehermetichermeticist]

“Proper names, they make everything easy!”


*Glares at the Ptolemies*

[iammrbeat]

Best video I've ever seen on the Iroquois. Thanks for releasing this.

[jwebes]

At first I was confused why the larger nations had fewer Sachems on the council, but then I realized that in the way the council is set up, no individual Sachem having a direct vote, it's advantageous to have fewer Sachems as you can reach consensus among your nation easier with fewer people.

[jedihunter]

Haudenosaunee Council: We grant you the rank of Youngest Sibling, but you are not on this council.
Tuscarora: I guess that's fair.

[SomalianDuke]

That feeling you get, when you have watched a Historis Civilis video and the outro melody plays. Best feeling ever!

[maxwheaton]

Shekoli HC! I hail from the Oneida nation, and overall wanted to express how much I enjoyed this video from you. My only correction I could give is that the mother of the clan acts more as a spiritual guide to the people of the clan. I suppose the closest thing I could compare it to is the Pontifix Maximus, rather then a pseudo head of state. That's not to play down her role at all. In each and every clan her guidance and wisdom is to be taken very seriously. I think in order to better understand the role of clan mother, its best to look into the religion our nations share. Once again, loved the video, and thank you for all your hard work!

[charlesbelisle]

As an Oneida Native American and a huge fan of your channel I greatly appreciate this video. I study Roman history myself so that’s how I got into your awesome content. This video was a great surprise.

[firstconsul]

"We grant you the rank of Nation, but do not give you a seat on this Council."
"Thats outrageous! It's unfair! How can you be a Nation without being on the Council?!"
"Go home, young Tuscarora."

[Rodfaj]

>Political stability, respect for superiors and equality
>Romans
Doubtful

[bigcat]

For a long time I thought I was pretty clever by deducing that the name of the Hudson River was probably a corruption of "Haudenosaunee". Then I discovered that it was actually named after Henry Hudson and felt pretty foolish.

[googlewouldntletmeaccessmy]

-The Romans of the western world
-Name one of their nations "Seneca"

[shakoiatenhawithacrossjaco]

As a follower of this channel, and being ionkwanonhshón:ni myself, I was surprised to see you post a video of our political system. Overall, I was really impressed at how much effort was put into this, how accurate, and how easy to follow it is. Although there is one thing in need of correcting.

1. The Mohawk, seneca, and onondaga are all elder siblings. The Cayuga, and oneida are younger siblings. There is no in between of young, younger, younger-er, youngest siblings.

Also, this system of the clan mothers appointing many chiefs, and being able to strip them of their titles solved the problem of corrupt leaders. As 50 chiefs are put in place to be representatives of their people, not one man with all the power who can, and will be corrupted (as history has shown again and again)

Any questions, I would be glad to answer, as we are still here, and this political system is still used today in grand councils, meetings, school debates, and during ceremony (although slightly different in each setting)

Again, I’m impressed with the video, and happy that people are being educated on onkwehón:we people.

Shakoia’tenhawì:tha, turtle clan, Mohawk nation, Kahnawà:ke

[simoncup]

This is very underrated. This video could easily be played throughout history classes and they'd still learn more than I did through elementary to high-school. thanks Historia Civilis!

[DavideMontingelliOfficial]

Is Caesar going to pacify this strange tribe too?

[TheGamingCats]

Ah yes, the Iroquois Confederacy, one of the greatest achievements of Julius Ceasar during the Roman era.

[MajoraZ]

I would absolutely love to see you do more videos on the precolumbian americas, especially for Mesoamerica and the Andes: Both had thousands of years or urban civilization with complex governments, there's every bit as much interesting stuff about them as Mesopotamia, classical antiquity, or ancient china, but they rarely get discussed.

[DamonCassada]

They basically told Tuscarora "you are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of master"

[willtipton]

I think the North American natives are some of the most underrated civilizations ever. I live near Cahokia, and have just recently started learning about the huge and powerful economy of the Mississippians. People look at Monks Mound and see a pile of dirt rather than the center of one of the greatest financial empires in history.