WAR: What Is It Good For? (Asking for Old School Baseball Traditionalists) | The Rich Eisen Show

Chris Brockman attempts (in vain) to explain to MLB traditionalist Rich Eisen what the baseball stat WAR means.

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[neugey]

Whatever you do, don't tell Rich the two top WAR players (Ohtani and Trout) play for the Angels yet they never make the playoffs.

[USALeonHeart]

Foolish Baseball has a great name for Rich's old-gen stats attitude: MANALYTICS.

[jameshowe]

This was absolutely agonizing to listen to... still love ya rich!

[carlac]

Did anyone notice that Rich ended the segment with "absolutely nothing" from the song "War" 1970 hit by Edwin Starr? Love the obscure trivia he comes up with.

[ScottieBoy]

Lol I can’t tell if he’s being obtuse or genuinely doesn’t get it, there are baseball analysts older than Rich who could explain it to him 🤣

[scottprewitt]

I love when Del Tufo gets roped in lol.

[DanielOrteez]

WAR is not a real stat since there's no definitive calculation for it. Isn't there like 3 or 4 different ways to calculate WAR and you get 3 or 4 different numbers?

[j.d.]

I understand it, but I don't necessarily agree with it. BTW, the title of this clip is a reference to 70's song.

[patrickrusso]

The problem with stats like WAR is that people can't easily tell you how they calculated the number. Does the skill of your teammates work against you (Does Otani have a high war because his teammates are poor, therefore making him look better than he is)?

[Gnofg]

War is a bs rating up there with OPS. Joey gallo is the textbook example of how OPS is wrong. He batted sub .200 with 38 hr and 7f RBI's and one sac fly and 213 SO's. His OPS is high because of 100 walks. How many RBI's did he get from walks? Is he paid to drive in runs. I think so. Walks only matters to table setters but is a negative for RBI men. Those stats would have you in the minors in the old days

[ucnu]

Back in my we never kept stats. We just played the ball. What are stats?

[osiriskid]

In other words, WAR, what is it good for?

[robbogart]

Lol what's so hard to understand?! I'm lost as to why they so confused

[eliasconnolly]

I get where Rich is coming from. How much weight does each statistical category contribute to WAR for example? Would a team composed of entirely 0 WAR players give you an 81-81 record, or is the average team better or worse than that? I think Brockman does a good job explaining the basics of the stat to the average layperson, but it seems like the minutia of the category is sort of like Oz when the curtains are closed (though, to be fair, you could say the same thing about PFF ratings, Passer Rating, and QBR, which I am sure Rich has a deeper understanding of)

[sastrugi]

Has there been any control test of this stat? Seems like the stat is self derivative.

[rickshafer]

That is the Gad dim thing, about statistics. Wins above replacement . - Give a fucking break ! !