432 Benchmarks on Ryzen 5600G - RAM x Vega Scaling (Stock vs Overclock)

On my Ryzen 5600G, I tested 6 RAM speeds each paired with 4 GPU core clocks, in 6 Benchmarks (Games) doing 3 Runs each.

I tested DRR4 2133, DDR4 2666, DDR4 3200, DDR4 3600, DDR4 4000, and DDR4 4600 at Vega 1900Mhz, 2100Mhz, 2300Mhz, and 2500Mhz.

00:00 Intro - Motivation
00:38 RAM and Vega Core Clock Configurations [4x6]
01:35 Test System Specs
02:08 Benchmarks (Games) Selection [6x3]
02:44 Experimental Overview Results (4x6x6x3 = 432)
03:25 How to Read the Graphs
03:41 Tomb Raider (2013) - Scores
04:01 Middle Earth: Shadow of War - Scores
04:24 Assassin's Creed Odyssey - Scores
04:45 Metro Exodus - Scores
05:10 Shadow of the Tomb Raider - Scores
05:26 Geekbench Vulkan Compute - Scores
05:51 Results: Relative Performance by Benchmark
07:47 Results: Scaling Is NOT Independent
08:50 Results: Important Example
09:28 Results: Vega Scaling Is Proportional to RAM Speed (bandwidth)
09:45 Results: Statistical Model
10:15 Results: Inference Graph
10:24 Is fast RAM worth it?

[excitve]

You worked really really hard on this video ♥️ highly respect ♥️♥️
That is one of the most hardest and specialist benchmark videos ♥️

[MaxLebled]

This is all very interesting data, thanks for your work! It's interesting to see where each game starts being bottlenecked by memory bandwidth to the point that performance doesn't budge even with a 30% core clock speed increase

[christopherosborne]

I'm starting a 5600g build and chose to go with some high speed ram per your videos. I'll let you know how it works out. Top notch work, Sir.

[NJcinemaHD]

Awesome video! I made a simple table in excel with the RAMs advertised XMP timings, put in the % performance increase over the cheapest kit according to your data and then mapped the price % rise from the cheapest kit with that, to geet the highest value configuration, which ended up beeing a 3600 CL 16-16-16-32 kit in the end. Awesome and thx for the work!

[neverenoughguitars]

This is amazing. I really appreciate all the work and time you spent on this. Very interesting.

[p.s.]

Thank you - very academic. Loved it. <3
I got inspired to replicate at least some of the 5600G results with 3200 (CL16 - CL22) SODIMM using my Deskmini.

[matheusnave]

This video is incredible complete, congratulations man you nailed

[WalkyZGaming]

Just wow, you put your soul in this work, subscribed

[whiskersthewondercat]

Amazing! Thanks a ton. Time to OC the RAM a bit

[oneManDev]

This is a really helpful video. I've been running on 4000MT/s RAM Speed & 2200MHz Vega 7 clock speed for around a couple of days now.
However, I'm facing some crashes from time to time. Especially when playing Crysis 3. Both of my monitors say no signal. It's rarely happening though.

[wieski]

This is all beyond me but even I can tell how much work was put into this video. Keep on showing the world what APUs can accomplish, man! :D

[callmetatan]

Thanks Reto, it's very valuable for a 5600g owner like me👍

[josef.bardales]

I am amazed at the work you put into this video, you are too great! I am currently optimizing a 5700g setup with fast ram and ocing and went with 2300mhz clock and 4200mhz ram, runs pretty great!
I have some questions for you though:
1. Why did you go over 5600g instead of 5700g? (Plain curiosity)
2. How much was your SOC to run IF 1:1 at 4600mhz ram? I can't get my 5700g past 2100mhz IF
3. You are the best and most in Depth person for this, are you a data analyst?

[aegolk]

Thanks and much respect for such a thorough work. That's amazing.

Having seen this table while looking for advice on building myself a 5600g system, I later chose to get the available but expensive G.Skill 2*16gb 4000 cl19 ram from the motherboard's QVL list. I didn't realize it back then, but the idea of good ram being important has stuck there somewhere, around the subconscious.

If possible, could you make a few broad (simplified, rule of thumb, generally speaking) answers to some questions on ram? All questions below firstly concern the Vega iGPU performance, and secondly the CPU performance (for cpu-heavy cases, for example applying color changes to raw files in Lightroom develop module)

1. How much of a influence would 32gb ram amount make, compared to 16gb?

2. Do 2 modules of DS ram fare better than 2 of SS?

3. Is optimizing primary and secondary timings a thing?

4. Are zentimings values a good, quick and generally reliable way to start the timings optimization?

Thanks and best wishes

[SylpheedW]

I upgraded my RAM yesterday from a 3200MT 16-18-18-38 Kit to a 4000MT 18-22-22-42 Kit (couldn't do more as my MB won't do more than 1.35V, thanks Biostar) and did some testing myself.
iGPU is at 2300Mhz
Uplift from 2133 (XMP disabled) to 4000 was AVG +52%, and from 3200 (old Kit) just +13%.
I tested it in Tomb Raider 2018 at 1080p Low, CS2 with FPS Heaven Benchmark Map, Unigine Valley at Extreme.
Worst Improvement was Cyberpunk at 1080p Medium FSR Balanced with +10.2% (3200 -> 4000).
AIDA64 Memory Bandwidth is up 23% and Latency from 63ns down to 56ns

[ulezisabanilla]

I have 2x8gb G.Skill Ripjaws 3600mhz RAM kits (XMP enabled) and I freaking love it.

[SJokes]

Man this is the data I have looking for. I've been wanting to get a little more performance out of my 5600G and RAM

[mattdrew]

Hey, how about ram timings i have 3600mhz cl18 ram im thinking about tightening the timings but im not good at it, is it worth it ?

[maximolucero]

Are the timings important when looking into getting ram? The kit I saw specifically was 2x8gb 4000mhz CL19. Amazing video, good job!

[komenasai]

Sub for future reference.

Already got 5600G to replace my 2600. Pair with 2070s. Plan to make APU build in future.
Also bought used Inwin Chopin with 200w psu. Have a blast playing with 5600G while testing the case. Hotbox casing indeed as I have to add another 80mm fan as exhaust. With 47mm cooler I get max 87c testing Cinebench R23 on stock.

Right now with 2070s, I just using PBO with negative curve 25 to bring CPU voltage under 1.3v. Boost clock maintain at 4450MHZ. SOC voltage under 1.12v.
Temp stay under 74c testing CInebench R23 for 30 minutes. I am using 64mm cooler.
Ram DDR4 3600 CL18 OC to DDR 4000 CL18 1.4v.

BTW, do you have a video how to OC GPU, with safe voltage on SOC? Thanks.