'Quick' Ashfur Addendum

I've gone through and removed some recent comments about Ashfur being better than Brambleclaw from my other video in preparation for posting this one, so don't worry if you've recently, uh, expressed the sentiment that inspired this video over there.
I wanted to make tis months ago, but put it off because of the anger and hateful messages I received for Bramblestar is Worse.

[Moonkitti]

Correction: Goldenflower lives past Starlight. Bramblestar is the only warrior cat allotted a mother

[RizzDraws]

"bumblestripe & ashfur have something else in common"
ah yes they're both grey

[StinginqNettle]

I spent like 5 minutes of this trying to decide what was wrong with the Ashfur until i realised he had no blonde hair.

[Rain_fawn]

“I’m a 28 year old woman who doesn’t have any dental insurance and make warrior cat videos” -moonkitti 2021

[definitelynotmoe]

Imagine how different the whole series would be if shrewpaw was still alive

[rightsock_asock]

“Who’s the better choice?”

Shrewpaw. It’s always Shrewpaw.

[eshix]

If Ashfur had gotten with Squirrelflight, he would probably have reacted EXTREMELY badly and violently to discovering that she'd hidden Jay, Holly and Lion's true parentage from him.

[nobodyimportant]

Having a guy try to murder your kids and torture you because you rejected him, only to come back after he died as a ghost by possessing your husband is straight up the plot of a horror novel.

[almondtofuchan]

I was an Ashfur apologist for a while, and I still like him more than Brambleclaw, but honestly both of the dudes were bad for Squilf. Once the Erins had to make him try to kill 4 cats to make him worse is when I stopped being invested at all.

[slashercat]

i was about to make a joke about Ashfurs mom being killed by a pack of Dalmations as his tragic backstory before I remembered that's almost exactly what actually happened

[TonySnacc]

Squirrelflight doesn’t need a mate, she needs some damn respect

[wes]

I'm sorry for the harassment but I really wanna say, your bramblestar is worse video made me realise my ex was abusive and inspired me to take the steps to get away. 10 months later and I feel so much happier and am doing far better, even if it brought an onslaught of twitter drama I'm so grateful you posted it :]

[avanillacoke]

I prefer single Squirrelflight over Squirrelflight with Ashfur or Bramblestar but the timeline would be messed up if she never got in a romantic relationship

Edit: I just realized that squirrelflight could claim the 3 as her own even without a mate because in arc 1 it's stated at some point that the queens can decide whether to reveal the father of their kits or not.

[thetomfooler]

The drawings don’t have Ashfurs blond hair and it’s seriously disorienting

[spyritsolz]

There isn’t anything wrong with liking morally bad characters, as long as you don’t try to justify their actions. There are plenty of fictional villains that I absolutely adore, but that doesn’t mean what they did was okay. There isn’t anything wrong with liking Ashfur or Bramblestar, as long as you acknowledge that their canonical treatment of Squirrelflight was not okay.

[LmaoMeowz]

Can we all just stop trying to decide if Squilf’s psychotic uncle or abusive jock boyfriend would be better and ship squirrelshrew

[naurrr]

I can't believe anyone would want to harass Moon. She's so talented, and deserves only love and respect from her fans.

[marsh.al.melw]

“So Brambleclaw now that we’re even do you wanna date me?”
I like this, this is funny.

[TennelleFlowers]

It’s almost as if people trying to moralize why they like or dislike characters is really counterproductive and harmful. It’s okay to just like the characters you enjoy, warts and all. 👍

[nathanielmandrake]

I’ve unfortunately had many run-ins with Ashfur apologists. Saying he just “made a small mistake” and whatnot.
All the times I’ve had to deal with them, I’ve had to put it in the perspective of people to try to tell people how BAD this cat was.
Like, imagine if these weren’t cats. Some dude is jealous because the person he liked is dating someone else. She then has three children. In rage, the man breaks into their house, sets fire to it, and tries/threatens to kill her and the three children trying to escape the house fire.
Ashfur’s actions were never good, and as someone who had to put up with my abuser’s actions being seen as “little oopsies” and being told “it’s just tough love” really strikes a nerve. Like yeah these are fictional cats but it has potential dangerous real life consequences if you defend that sort of behavior, even in fiction.
Just adding my own experience with Ashfur apologists who have gotten upset with me for saying he’s bad lol