YGO Player Looks at Pokemon Cards and Tries to Figure Out If They're Good or Not

I try to see if Pokémon cards are good or not

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#yugioh #magic

[monikhadka]

"6 cards is good in any card game"
Uno: am I a joke to you

[daz]

"Pay half your life points, banish your deck, offer your soul, then draw 2 cards"
Ygo player: Dang that's pretty good
"Draw 3 lol"
Pkmn player: This is trash

[TheLordofMetroids]

One thing I have to say I REALLY love about the Pokemon TCG is that they credit the illustrator prominently on the card. That is really cool of them, I wish other card games did that.

[Amsel_]

YGO Player looks at UNO cards and tries to figure out if they're good or not

[ClampEEGEE]

Best part about Exeggcute: the once per turn thing is irrelevant because when it goes back into your hand it stops applying, so you could spam discard search cards while it was in standard and just keep getting your eggs back.

[treasuremage]

The thing about Hau, nobody is ever going to use their ONE SUPPORTER A TURN on during three cards when they could also use that supporter on something Cynthia that can draw six cards, something like Skyla, that gets exactly the card they need, or something like Guzma which sets up the game winning attack.

[Rexir]

Hop is considered bad probably due to the opportunity cost of not using a different, situationally more powerful supporter. He's still a decent card, just often overshadowed by alternative options.

[alcedof.]

Yugioh: You can use all resources at ones but getting recources is limited.

Pokemon: You can get alot of recources but you are limited how much you can use per turn.

Draw 2 in yugioh: Busted op.

Draw 3 in Pokemon: OmegaLUL shit card.

[StarkMaximum]

The problem with these streams is when you get a card that isn't blatantly overpowered or comically weak, like Skyla (who is solidly "okay" mid tier Supporter if you don't have anything better to do), everyone in chat just says either "oh it's super busted" or "it's completely useless". No one in stream chat has ANY sense of middle ground.

[ChaoticMeatballTV]

ADP was the card that made me stop playing the game for a long time. Very happy to see that it has rotated out of our standard format, and I really hope it doesn't take 4 years to ban out of Expanded like it took for Shaymin EX.

[VirtuesOfSin]

Hop, translating into YuGiOh, would be the equivalent of "Draw 2 cards. For the rest of this turn, you cannot search your deck or draw cards, or activate other effects that would allow you to search your deck or draw cards (including their other effects)." - This was actually a "Reprint" of Supporter Bill (Draw 2 cards, only 1 Supporter per turn), but that card was so utterly garbage in the Pokemon Metagame that they upped it to 3 cards, and it's still horrible.

ANYTHING that is a Supporter, you have to have an obscene effect attached to it to counter that 1/turn restriction.

[Practitioner_of_Diogenes]

I'm sad no one sent you the Delta Species Snorlax with no attacks.
That card's hilarious.

[FizzleIsGaming]

My take on them all as someone who has played at many regionals and has top 64-ed big events before.

skyla: a decent card overall. nice search effect. 7/10 a bit slow for expanded unless playing control.

arceus dialga palkia gx: Gatekept a format for 2 years and is literally the most hated card in the last few years. it had a very linear and braindead strategy and led to boring repetitive games. super unfun to play against and autowins any single prize matchups. deserved a ban imo.
10/10, almost 11/10

garchomp and giritina gx: strong card that sees decent expanded format play. was decent in standard format, but outclassed by stronger decks like adp zacian, mew3, pikarom, lucmetal, and welder reshizard. solid 7-8/10.

cynthia: a really nice card for drawing out of bricks and saving your resources while digging for better cards. sees play in expanded regularly since its rotation from standard. 8/10

hawalucha: bad in constructed play. it was good at the prerelease event though since for one energy you could discard your opponents fusion strike energy. saw a few people win games at fusion strike prerelease because of it alone. 3/10

exeggcute: crazy good. an expanded staple. free resources with its ability and makes cards like ultra ball have no cost. also broken in a zoroark exeggcutor expanded deck that discards them for insane damage, then recycles them to hand with propogation for free. 9/10

hop: terrible. absolute dogcrap. we make fun of people who play hop and call them poor. just play marnie and prof research and bruno etc. supporters are once per turn and drawing 3 for a supporter is awful compared to other stuff like research which draws 7. 0/10

chip chip ice axe: completely broken control card. combos with a lot to lock your opponent out of ever drawing anything they want and just perma bricking them. alone it would be a meh card but because of so much control synergy its 10/10.

slowbro: meme levels of bad. 1/10 i rated it stronger than hop because playing this will get you friends and respect out of the meme of playing it, but playing hop will just get you made fun of and bullied.

[lustereclips]

10:32 egg is NOT a once per turn. when it goes back to discard pile. it resets the effect on the ability. so you can add it back to hand and use it as fodder for other cards that require you to discard with it.

[zo-zu]

Hearing him call Hop broken made me laugh so hard

[snowboundwhale]

That Ice Axe seems like one of those cards that seems mostly harmless at a glance, but then it actually gets to interact with other cards and suddenly it's busted. I imagine the "stops searching" is by means of disallowing your opponent from ever drawing their search cards. It's a "fate-sealing" effect, being able to directly influence or outright control the opponent's next draw.
MTG's Jace the Mind Sculptor was pretty infamous for being able to functionally end games by itself between it's effects and the fatesealing was an important part of that for being able to keep your opponent from making a comeback.
There's not many Yugioh cards that fate-seal that I know of, though Number 5: Doom Chimera Dragon can do a version of it, being able to target a card in the opponent's GY and place it on top of their deck. Mostly not great, but if you've stripped them back to top-carding by the time you're using it and they have garnets in the grave, that's when the effect actually gets good as you can force bricks to prevent a recovery. Granted, usually it's better to play cards that'd actually win you the game sooner if you can force that position in the first place, but that's dependant on having/ being able to play them.

[thestylemage]

2:50 From my understanding, the "cost" is being a supporter, locking you out of other strong options for that turn (opportunity cost).

[oxstrupgreekxo]

When they were explaining why Hop was bad to him I think he wasn't understanding that if you play Hop you then cannot play Cynthia in the same turn because they are both supporter cards. The way he was talking made it seem he thought those specific cards were once per turn.

[echogaia]

GX effects are even more restrictive than once per duel effects of Yu gi Oh. Cause you can only use 1 GX effect per duel. Not just the GX effect of one card, any GX attack is affected by this restriction. And if you, for exemple, use this card GX attack, then you are locked of GX attacks completely for the rest of the duel. So usually those effects are busted and game changing.

[runningoncylinders]

The Skyla is one reason I’d be glad to see full art Yugioh cards, but playmats are a pretty sweet alternative.