New Giant TCR has an impressive price!

The podcast today features the new for 2024 Giant TCR. We can't believe how expensive it is, and what else you could get for less, and more astonishing is that you can get a premium bike for like a TIME ADH or a LOOK 785 for cheaper if you custom build.

We discuss that Giro Helmet being used by the Jumbo Lease a Bike team

FInally we take a first look at the new Power Meter Pedals from Look and what advantages they bring.

[felixmuller]

I bought the last gen tcr advanced pro 1 with full mechanical ultegra, carbon hoops, and a powermeter for 3100€ - paying more than double for essentially the same bike with electronic shifting is absolutely mental!

[matejzima]

One of the issues I have is that I don't have that much time to shop around and hence why I don't see the pricing in a proper context, before I watched this, I'd just shrug about the Giant and moved on, but thanks to Jake and guys, I know better now. Thanks!

Love it, more of this please!

[byc]

the best value is definitely in custom builds, but people aren't patient. The delayed gratification of a solid home build is amazing. With so much parts discounting in the UK, it's very easy to build a high end bike for less.

[thejonesy]

Bought a TCR Advanced Pro MY24 (non-integrated cables - phew!) frameset just before Christmas from an authorised dealer for less than £1500 and built it up myself for a significant saving on the complete bike cost. Great if you are handy with spanners, but even if you aren't and get a LBS to do it for you, there are still significant savings to be had. Not sure the direct comparison with Canyon is an entirely fair one because Giant do have stores and use authorised sellers as well as having an online presence.

[npdf]

Great show guys.. prices are unreal.. 😢.. love my steel and titanium bikes 😊❤ rim brakes and mechanical, tubes to works for me. Pete 🚴🏻👍

[nomadcarpenter]

Nobody has mentioned that you can build the giant for £1500 less for similar spec

[johnrodgers]

In the US Time ADHX with Zipp 303s, SRAM Force,
D1/red force 1x power meter spider
$6440

[kevinfrost]

Giant TCR pricing issue simple point made clearly, nicely done. Exactly why anyone involved or interested in bikes should watch the channel. Often the traditional position of the TCR has been a first bike and I suspect those often unknowing folk are those Giant seeks to target 🤔

[Timinime-pwgs]

I just bought the new generation TCR Pro 0 in Singapore for SGD$7, 200 (£4, 100), which was the launch price.

Carbon SLR bars, SLR wheels, 7.4kg etc. There is no other bike I can match for the specs & price in this market.

Not sure why it’s almost double the price in the UK - perhaps if you’re in the Uk, fly to Singapore for the weekend and bonus - claim the 10% tax back.

[chris_gb_]

Alex Dowsett is running an excellent wind tunnel testing series on his channel, very much worth watching if you're interested in the gains and losses from position, helmets, shoes, clothes etc. and how those differences translate into real world power and time, vs how much weight you would have to lose to see the same performance benefits.

[salvatoremannino]

My opinion on the Giant is that they believe that they have built up a big enough fun base to the point that they have moved up several notches in appeal as to justify the price tag. Maybe they have, maybe they have not, it's a bit of a gamble. It's interesting to see what will happen

[trwilliams]

I just got my Time ADH with Force (with power meter), King wheels, Enve seatpost, and Zipp aero handlebars for the price of that Giant with Ultegra.

[jimwilliams]

I have the Assioma Duo road pedals, and they are really good. So easy to swap between bikes, simply charging, easy to replace bearings when needed, and good selection of spares - I had to replace the body after damaging one in a crash. The Look pedals do look cool, and are light, but I would only consider purchasing them if I had a road and gravel setup, as you can buy just the bodies for one, and swap them onto the spindle of the other. Otherwise, I couldn't justify spending over £1k on a set.

I did look at a Giant TCR just before Christmas, but instead opted for a Tarmac SL7 that was on sale, and much cheaper than the equivalent Giant. They really need to look again at their range, which is, to my mind, far too confusing. Plus, if you want Ultegra or similar, it's coming with a power meter, whether you want one or not - obviously I don't. Plus hookless rims... I'd choose Canyon over Giant now, or better still spec and build custom.

Great content, by the way - Jake's a natural.

[chris_gb_]

The Giro Aerohead 2.0 makes so much sense now that the helmet dimension rules have have been talked about and explained, I'm surprised nobody did something like this before i.e. extending the front of the helmet. For coefficient of drag at the crudest level, long and narrow is better than short and wide. Making the rider + helmet system longer is 'obvious, ' so well done to the Giro engineers who recognised that it was within the rules!

[scottwatson]

I respect both Look and Time as brands. My only real issue with them both is they’re so hard to get hold of and dealers are few and far between.

[n_cortex]

The UK are getting fleeced. The Tcr Advanced Pro 0 is the equivalent of £4250 in Australia ($8199AUD).

[ariffau]

I do 90 minutes to 4 hour long indoor rides on Trainer Road. Please keep pumping out more podcast style contents like this as it really helps me go through my endurance indoor rides. ❤

[madduckuk]

Wouldn't be surprised if we see layoffs at Giant shortly. They are still chasing the "line goes up" and when increasing prices stops working they will move on to improving the margin in other ways.

[Gnomer]

Since the reveal of the 25MY (no idea why Giant has +1’ed it), the old TCRs have been discounted heavily. I picked up the 2024 TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc with 105 Di2, carbon wheels and a power meter for £3150. On the cycle to work scheme as well. Final cost to me is ~1800. The RRP is £4600.

[daveyboytunes]

Well Jake you are building me a phenomenal bike, roll on next week. So glad to have gone Time rather than Giant (Defy)..
Can you throw in that Garmin mount 😂