Is Hell Separation From God? - Wm. Paul Young

Wm. Paul Young, author of "Lies We Believe About God," describes many of the issues he sees in the concept of a hell of everlasting torment.
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[SamOgilvieJr]

"We have literalized scripture and ignored the Word of God." ~~~Wm. Paul Young

[loleki]

So grateful for the scriptures and the logic. He is the Logos! Thank you.

[JohnHMarsden]

Oh, my word...this makes my thinking so much clearer. I have never accepted Eternal Torment, thank you, Paul!

[nicolalairdon]

Believing in eternal hell says more about what is in our heart, and our fear of punishment (or our desire others have it) then what is in the heart of Love. 1 John 4 makes it clear. Those who fear are in fear because they believe in torment. And until that is removed from them they do not know Gods love.

[rondarozon]

Thankyou so much! That was extremely helpful as after 20 years of being a Christian my mind is starting to open up to other possibilities! I agree with all you are saying!

[MarthaEllen]

Just wonderful. Like a cup of fresh water. Cutting through the rubbish and evil dogma masquerading as the word of God. 11:14 'Do we want the doctor to judge us? I hope so!' We need a diagnosis and we need the judgement of the doctor, the treatment, with the goal of our healing and restoration.

[duncannjuguna]

"The truthfulness of a doctrine is not validated by our ability to comprehend it or reconcile it to our understanding, nor is our inability to do so grounds for rejecting it." Paul Washer

[tommywarren]

In Lamentations 3:31, God said that he would not cast off anyone forever, and in 2nd Samuel 14:14 God devizes ways that people will not be banished from him, just those two verses seem to make it plain enough, but if it's not enough, Isaiah 25.8, this is a prophecy of what Jesus would come to do, he will swallow up death in victory and wipe away tears from All faces!!

[cfsnyder]

Paul, this is great. I agree and am so blessed by you. God has been teaching me so much on this subject, and it is not what I used to believe. Great job.

[DIBBY]

The Gospel of Truth says that, " It was amazing: they were within the Father while not recognising Him..." God brings knowledge. Hell is being in forgetfulness of God.

[ironglaciers]

This is exactly why I was an agnostic for like 10-11 years. None of the teachings I'd been taught up to that point made any sense, as William Paul Young here points out very well.

[gertzadik]

Hebrew “sheol” means grave. Greek “hades” means grave. Wages for sin is death not eternal conscious torment in God’s firery torture chamber.

[jamescannon]

I agree 100%. I came from the traditional background believing in Hell but, when I took the time to do a focused study and discovered that the word “Hell” is not found in any of the original languages I had to change my mind. Hell had to had come from the Greek influence seeing how Hades is a Greek God of the underworld and Tartarus is another Greek Godlike creature. The word Jesus used “Gehinnom” is a physical location where they did Human sacrifice of babies 1, 000 years before, and Jesus used Gehinnom because His audience knew their history. These 3 words cover all the words used to translate into Hell as eternal, conscience torment and could not possibly be accurate. The last world, “Sheol” is the Hebrew OT world which simple means, The Grave or pit where all go after death…… the righteous and the unrighteous….

[billcanonico]

...thanks for this. there's way too much content for me to respond to in particular, but i really appreciate it.

[paulpaulsen]

Wonderfully put, Mr William Paul Young! Thank you so much from Germany!

[dalecampbell]

What a difference it makes when you read Bibles that are translated from the Hebrew and Greek ( Young’s Literal Translation, Rotherham Emphasized Bible), compared to the English translations that came from Latin translations. It gives you clarity and the true meanings of certain words. It also reveals the Augustine agenda influence that created fear and control. For example; Matthew 25:41 these shall go away into age-abiding correction (Rotherham)
Depart from me, ye cursed into everlasting fire.(kjv).

[danielcartwright]

There's so much here that I agree with, but also some that I find frustrating. He seems to be equating eternal conscious torment with externally imposed punishment. While there certainly have been views like that, I would argue that the earliest Christians believed in ECT, but believed it was a result of how our sin had shaped us, not something imposed by God.

[darlenedavidson]

What about NDE's many talk about seeing hell, and demons.

[craigster]

God gives us a choice. LIFE or DEATH. And DEATH is not LIFE somewhere really awful. Malachi 4:1 tells us what will happen to the unbeliever. AND I QUOTE - "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch." If you believe that that unsaved live somewhere forever - you must believe that our souls are immortal. BUT THEY ARE NOT IMMORTAL. And only the souls of the saved ever become immortal.

[dorinamary]

My son completely quit being a Christian when he studied to be a Special Education Teacher, and had worked with MR/DD adults. He said they cannot understand this gospel, so he thought it was a very unfair God. He went so far as to throw the baby Jesus out with the bathwater, and to this day he is a secular humanist.