Is Tudor the ‘poor’ man’s Rolex? (Black Bay 41 Monochrome vs. Submariner 114060)

Tudor Black Bay 41 Monochrome
41mm case (40.5mm across bezel)
13.6mm thick
49.3mm lug to lug
21mm lug width
Cal. MT5602-U w/ 70 hours power reserve
200m water resistance
164.3 grams
$4,425

Rolex Submariner
114060 (newer model 124060)
41mm case (40mm across bezel)
12.6mm thick
48mm lug to lug
20mm lug width
Cal. 3130 w/ 48 hours power reserve (new model Cal. 3230 w/ 70 hours)
300m water resistance
158.4 grams
New model $9,100

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[BLR]

I own the 116610 Submariner and a BB58 blue. I picked up the Tudor (pre-owned) for 1/4 the price of the Sub. The Tudor is simply unbeatable for the performance and watch per $. To me Tudor is what Rolex used to be - simple, luxury, tough tool watches. I love both. If I was getting the monochrome I would do it on the rubber strap - super sporty look.

[Fatboylo]

When was the last time you saw a poor man dishing out 4-5k on a watch? 😂

[watchequalsfun]

Tudor is the attainable Rolex. Define attainable as you wish.

[scottlynch]

I own both (but bought the Black Bay 41 burgundy, 5-link, new model). Answer is NO! The Rolex does have a more quality feel to it, but not by much. The Rolex price is just stupid too. The BB41 is a fantastic watch that is not pretentious and honestly I find it more comfortable than the Sub. I wear the BB41 just a tad more than the Sub. Being the burgundy bezel, it does get more glances than the Sub. I do like the Sub, but admittedly there's been times I've regretted the purchase, but I've never felt that way with the BB41. It's just a solid watch, with great specs, movement that's less than half the price of Sub.

[TheBimmer]

Somewhat analogous to Seiko and Orient. Both are great in their own right. It's the parent companies targeting different different market segments.

[HishamElfiki]

Tudor black bay 41mm black dial and bezel Master Chronometer 2024
One of the most beautiful watches that money can buy
The Shield Protects The Crown
MY FAVORITE TUDOR


ROLEX
Submariner 124060 41mm
Submariner 1680 " Red Sub "
My favorite ROLEX watches


Brilliant video
Brad
Cheers
Thank you so much for sharing
Kind regards

[paulbonaventura]

I was at a bbq yesterday and someone had the no date sub… it was stunning, shiny, and the clarity of dial was amazing. I was impressed. I thought (what if I showed up with a BB monochrome? Do we fight?) lol

[jaykraft]

Got an Invicta Submariner which is just as close, cost about $50 10 years ago, still looks and works perfect.

[Anonymouslyme]

Not any more. I collect both brands as well as Omega and I’m just as happy and proud wearing my Tudor as I am when wearing my more expensive watches.

[comeonman]

beautiful, would love to see a 37mm monochrome with 20mm lug width

[spartus]

I think the Tudor is a fantastic watch, I consider it a great buy.

[beegees]

I really hope Tudor releases the BB58 in this monochrome black. Will buy immediately

[rampantcolt]

I have the Tudor and it’s dope! +1 second a day. Crispy clicks on the bezel. Beefy bracelet (5link).dial is really black, no shine. I love it.

[sc]

I agree with Brad. The Rolex feels more “refined” in hand. But I just can’t explain why or how. Regardless of looks, There is something intangible about how Rolex feels. Maybe it is the special steel alloy, maybe the tight tolerances of production, maybe something else.

[feisty]

Even though one can make that argument as there're some similarities in terms of looks but by putting them side by side you can clearly see that these're Two Different Beasts.

[jason]

I used to own a 114060. I also own a BB58. I decided I didn't need two no-date black dial divers. So I traded the Sub! 'Nuff said.

[BRMIV]

Great side-by-side. Looking at these two primarily as tool watches, I would save the money and take the Tudor without hesitation. The one Submariner feature I'd put on my Tudor wish list is the ceramic bezel.

[andrewlawson]

Not the best view but In my eyes, Tudor will always be the ''budget'' Rolex. The design are so strikingly similar. If you someone offered the Rolex at a price slightly above the Tudor, 99% of the people will probably snag the Rolex. The good thing with Tudor is you can have something to a Rolex with the fraction of the price

[MylleZ]

Tudor is the wise man Rolex, right now.
Rolex heritage designs (with all the rights to do it), super quality (metas movements are as good as the superlative chronometers), affordable and easy to get (no AD stupid games).
On the wrist, the Tudor feels almost the same as the submariner (I own both), but I actually think I prefer the more tool and rugged look of the Tudor (it's a true definition of tool watch).
One thing I really love on the Tudor, over the submariner, is the no crown guards. Man, if Rolex lauched a modern version of the Submariner Big Crown, everyone would go crazy.
But Rolex, nowadays, is a prestige luxury brand, and Tudor is the enthusiast brand - Yes, Tudor is the Rolex from the 80's - 90's...

[ProfessorCarlo]

Excellent video and yes I agree with you; as an owner of a significant collection including some of the rarest Swiss complications, I completely agree that any watch priced above $500 is definitely not cheap and is on the luxury end of the spectrum.