Proof GTA San Andreas and GTA 5 are connected

#shorts #gta #gtatheory

[skollandhati]

That might've been the most interesting dialogue Jimmy has ever had in the entire game.

[simonjohansson]

Jimmy: "Are you Grove Street?"
Franklin: "Do I look low poly to you?"

[SpartanChief]

My favorite line from Franklin is when Lamar just tells him "You look like Chop trying to read when you do that focus shi". The abilities are canon

[BigBoshV]

Jimmy represents the very gamers who play GTA and miss the 3D universe.

[theuberedredspy]

I'm almost certain that the 3D universe characters/events exist in some way in the HD universe. The entirety of Lazlow Jones, the celebrity stars in Los Santos, Toni from Flash FM and Flashback FM appearing on a billboard in the east part of Los Santos, and various other things all seem to imply that even if the events of the 3D universe didn't happen, the characters most certainly still exist somewhere.

[matthewt]

Lester also references Niko when he says “there was this Eastern European contact in Liberty City” when talking about the Jewel heist

[ramadhanfernando]

In my opinion, it's like a urban legend... for example, maybe there was an infamous ex-gangsta from Grove Street called "Carl Johnson" in HD Universe... but it's not the same guy who have ever robbed Caliguna Casino, raided Area 69, or the one who've killed lots of mafia. They're in different universe, sure... however, just like what Franklin said in this video, every stuff that ever happened in 3D Universe could become a myth in HD Universe.

[CULTR]

Fun fact: Shawn Fonteno (Franklin's VA) actually voiced one of the Grove Street members back in San Andreas. It was the big guy with a green bandana on his head.

[foehammersbane]

Honestly, i want to theorize that the events of GTA:SA most likely happened in GTA:V. What i mean by that is how 3D-SA is its own world, while HD-SA happened in GTA:V, maybe with little differences here and there.

Of course HD-SA would follow the drastic events that followed (like CJ raiding a military base, owning a casino and robbing a different one, working with government agents, burning a weed farm, and eventually taking back LS and defeating CRASH). But of course, despite these notorious feats it have eventually lead to a culmination of CJ even retiring, considering the lifestyle he was living in at the end of the game.

He most likely have even moved from LS, getting a favor from Mike Toreno to cover up his past, or since Toreno disappears in the story, he may have just left Grove Street behind with his family to another area, providing a fresh start. This may be supported by how much CJ has at the end of the game to set them up for a good portion of their lives, supported by Kendall, who is quite adept at managing businesses.

Of course, maybe he left another leader in it's place, or not, and maybe they disbanded, but regardless it would've eventually led to in-fighting that weakened GS considerably, most likely losing territory to the Ballas and Vagos over time. Then shortly thereafter, many splinter-factions were formed, leading to the current Families we know today.

Since GS pretty much disbanded, and then nearly 2 decades later, what used to be a possible reality, became a background story throughout the families. But to outsiders like Jimmy, may have seen it as an urban legend, most likely supporting his romanticizing of the gangster life and like Franklin said, "Hell no, it's not a myth, but times have changed, homie. I'm families, I guess, just like they was, but things is different now homie. It ain't the early nineties no more."

Franklin is most likely saying that the stuff the Grove managed to pull off is just not possible anymore. It's most likely a quip for the player to interpret that times have change, that it's best to stop seeking out a past fantasy that won't apply to current modern-day Los Santos.

Of course, this is my head-canon, so R* has the final say of what is true canon regardless.

Sincerely ~ A man washing dishes right after posting this comment

[MrDilkington]

that is the worst piece of proof that there connected ive ever seen in my life lmao

[osmanceylan]

I wish they made single player DLC so you get to explore this stuff about what happened to the old Grove and personally I'd want gang wars back

[rileyjames]

Who would’ve thought a newer game with the same name in the same city in the same state made by the same people would have anything to do with each other😂😂

[saltypepperspice]

You can also find traces of OG Loc's career. Jimmy has OG Loc CD's, and you can find his Golden Album in Franklin's second safehouse.

[MaxHohenstaufen]

There's even reference to RDR in GTA V, which is a far more distant reality, so why wouldn't there be any to SA?

[HOTD_]

There's literally ZERO reason for the 3D and HD universe to be seperated. I've heard some people say that it was done because the city layouts are so different between games, but Chinatown Wars IS considered to be within the HD universe and its version of Liberty City is very different to GTA4, so there's really no excuse for the universe seperation.

[zachhi]

I think CJ would have been more down with Jimmy than Franklin 😅

[ANNAfromwithin]

Franklin said it perfectly reality check everyone

[AntiHamster]

The thing I've found with GTA5 and it's connection to SA is that most people in the GTA5 world will have 2 separate opinions. One half will say that Grove Street existed but that they rose to the top as a gang and eventually became the elite corporate entities of Los Santos. While others will say the Groves street was either assimilated by other gangs or simply wiped out before they could reach the top. In both scenarios Grove Street exists but have become legends/myths for the people of Los Santos. The same technique is used for Bioshock 2 when referencing the events of Bioshock 1. **[SPOILERS]** In one of the early levels you can find 2 splicers talking about "Jack". One saying that he saved all the Little Sisters and took them away from Rapture, while the other calls him an idiot and says that Jack harvested all the Little Sisters and left to rule the outside world.

[MoonitheBooni]

Frank just called my whole childhood a old-school s!it

[demarcohowell]

I really wish we got a DLC where you can play as Franklin or even Lamar and you can start gang wars and take back Gang territory’s like GTA SA