Case Fatality Rate vs. Infection Fatality Rate In COVID-19

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It’s really curious to me how mainstream media has been basically ignoring the coverage of deaths by COVID without preexisting conditions or otherwise. Straight deaths by COVID alone, I haven’t heard anything from either side. You’d think it would be the most popular topic for journalists worldwide!

no._u
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The last statement about keeping more people from being infected in order to lower deaths is misleading. Wouldn't more deaths be prevented if the tiny group of vulnerable people were protected and the rest of the population built up herd immunity?

cbody
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Real life is not easy. The death rates are notoriously difficult to estimate. The first problem is finding the global number infected. Even deaths are not easy. Do or did they have COVID-19. Were they reported either way. Did treatments add to the deaths. Did lack of treatments add to the deaths. Whatever it is best to stick to one set of numbers. I prefer the number of deaths to deaths and recovered. For France it is a staggering 28 per cent. Very few if any seem to get under 1 per cent. But there are clear demarcations with good countries keeping numbers around 2 per cent and others who cant get them under 10 per cent. We seem to have global plans on masks and lockdowns but cant seem to agree on treatments to get the same death rate of 2 per cent or better everywhere. Why is this?

jfryer
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Short story is, nobody really knows. Long story, infections, cases, or estimated infections makes a big difference in the mortalityrate.

MarshallMatherstheth
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It's about 0.2% - there saved you time

ServiceNowTeacher
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If the new covid19 hypothesis suggests bradykinin storm....doesn’t lisinopril cause in increase in bradykinin??

shonuff
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IFR cannot be higher than the FR of cases with outcomes.

ahkau
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Thanks Dr. Wilson, please continue to do paper reviews!

commsky
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Make sure you give links to studies :)
Excellent video, thank you.

nittyjee
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@1:00 "If we assume that we are not capturing
That is not an assumption.

edwardlewis
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These are statistical data may provide a general guide but have a direct relation to human beings that could have previous pre-existing conditions or illneses and may lead us to erroneous interpretations of the results and conclusions. Many deaths around the world have been classified as COVID-19 and may not have been the exact cause. There have been tremendous sampling errors but due to the serious situation that led to a global emergency they are the only reliable tools at the moment.

MilciadesAndrion
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So right now the death rate is 0.02 because the Death are 1 million divided by 38 million

emsdiy
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If Infection Fatality Rate includes the estimate of all who are infected, why doesn't it then use the total combined deaths of confirmed case deaths and estimated excess case deaths?

It seems to my math degreed mind that this formula is fundamentally flawed if it doesn't include excess deaths above normal averages but wasn't tested for the disease but most likely did die from it.

I acknowledge the usefulness of estimating all the cases including asymptomatic ones. This is a useful metric. I just question the denominator in the equation when it's just confirmed deaths and doesn't include the excess deaths estimated to have been killed by the disease.

jamesogara
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Any thoughts why US soldiers have practically zero death rate from COVID-19? Armed forces are 2.1 million strong but only 3 deaths out of 26, 408 cases. .001 case fatality rate?

williamstewart
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You'd think that a random sampling of, say New Yorkers would give a reasonable infection fatality rate.

chrissscottt
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Some logical flaws in this video.
1:35 with one good doctor there would be zero fatalities.
Just as there are hospital "islands" where no deaths occur.
Now put down your camera and papers and call those islands and ask them what they are doing.
There are also doctor "islands" where the patients don't die, rather than calling them quacks, copy them and save lives.
Did you hear there are nursing home "islands" where people are not dying?
The smart thing to do would be to copy the Masters.
Or be a bean counter of death.

mballer
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It would be nice to have direct links to the mentioned in video articles. In current situation one must retype article title from provided picture of it :)

pigritor
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Changes your dna. Google sars2 transverse transcriptase

wthomas
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WHO, Infection Fatality Rate is 0.14% in April 2021.

lloydbraun