The Psychology of Trans Women (NEUROTICISM EXPOSED)

I discuss what I consider to be the central neuroticism of trans women, which centers around the paranoia that women don't perceive them to be "real women."

[diserious]

As a trans woman, I did find the ideology of trans women should be considered real women is quite unrealistic. I tried asking myself do I prefer dating cis or trans men, and to be honest I prefer cis. So if I myself couldn’t consider cis and trans to be the same, how can cis people?

[jennifercoopman]

Spot on about the silent majority! I'm one of them. I'm polite and supportive in public and social spaces, but fundamentally annoyed by the insistence that a trans woman is the same as me.

It didn't used to be that way. Comparing my experience to what he described, Ray is correct about why we were happy to include trans women not only socially, but politically as well. And most women weren't bothered.

Until they tried to replace us.

The unconscious misogyny and sexism of it all is ironic because isn't it just like a man to think he can be a better woman than a woman? Trans women, being men, just naturally feel entitled to everything the women have, and have fought for.

As an old school feminist, had I known men were going to use transness as a way to take over our sports, invade our private spaces, and disregard (and in some cases silence) our voices, I would've done some gatekeeping years ago. Instead, I feel like I painted myself into a corner.

[upnorth]

The problem I have with this "real woman" thing is that it shrinks womanhood into nothing much else but outward appearance. I find it disrespectful and reactionary. Women are a category if their own.

[CanadaFree-cejn]

As several trans-women have said themselves, "trans-women are not real women."

[bosco]

I live in the lefty liberal Pacific Northwest. I'm a centrist man who happens to be gay. Recently I went into a coffee shop and politely ordered an Americano. The cashier said they're name and pronoun then asked my name and pronoun. I politely said again I'd like an americano please. Went to the back. Manager came out and said if you're not going to respect my employee you will leave now.
This is insane. A lot of LGBs want to divorce the identity people.

[rockowilson]

Sorry. I just can't with the "Cis" thing. Anytime someone refers to a biological male or female as "cis", I Immediately tune out.

[laikanbarth]

I learned an important lesson from all of this and that is it is not a good thing to be tolerant!!

Too much tolerance, and bam! We’re a doormat. Maybe an angry and resentful doormat, but a doormat all the same.

Excessive tolerance is not a virtue. It’s a lack of boundaries, or at least a lack of willingness to stand for them. And, as the saying goes, if you won’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.

Tolerating unacceptable or undesirable behaviour from others means you’ll be on the receiving end of more of it.

What you allow will continue.

[xmaseveeve]

I don't like the term, 'cis'.

[UnKnown-cqmg]

If there is any question on whether a person is a real woman or not, They probably are not.

[mackenziethesinger]

As a trans woman, I accept that I am biologically male. I understand the resentfulness of our male bodies among fellow trans women due to the gender dysphoria, but I also know that I will never be a biological female and that is okay. My experience doesn't have to be the same as a biological woman to make me valid as a human. I know my biological reality will be male and my experience is different from a biological woman because I was not born and reared as female. This is why I am always upfront and honest about my trans identity because I don't want to lie about my true nature.

[UnKnown-cqmg]

Phobia means fear. There is no fear in being biologically accurate. Reality is just too much for some to handle, So they have to sling slurs and insults.

[VLADtheINHALERr]

Could a surgically altered bull enter a cow milking competition?

[Scratchy]

I struggle when it come to pronouns because I see so much sexism in the gender identity ideology that when using the preferred pronouns of a trans person, I feel like I have to submit to his/her internalized sexism in order to respect that person. I still respect the person, but not the ideology.

[MettleHurlant]

Thank you for addressing this topic. Receiving external validation only fuels the need for more, with increasing criteria. Not complying can result in anger and violence in some. It’s a compulsion.

[pseudonamed]

As someone involved in the LGBT community since the 90s, I remember back in the day when you'd encounter the occasional trans person, and people in the communities I ran in were accepting. But there wasn't this expectation that people could demand you have to view them as they view themselves. Like for each individual T woman I met, there were moments where she might be accepted, in practice, as 'one of the girls' and there were other times where she might not be. But the feeling was that T women understood they weren't entitled to anything, that if they fit in with a certain group they would be accepted into some spaces but couldn't just demand entry anywhere they wanted.

[blaqkatt]

I’m trying to figure out how they want to take our title of women and rename us as Cis and as a biologically born female no we’re not the same. No hate, just is what it is.

[cathygourlay]

Why is it always about trans women, rarely talk about issues with trans men?

[baconsarny-geddon]

As long as people keep calling these men "women" (with OR without the "trans" prefix), and "she/her", they will keep feeling more and more entitled to be TREATED accordingly...

Stop pretending to believe the lie, and they'll stop expecting you to ACT like you believe the lie...

[wren]

Trans women need to realize they aren't passing just because we don't say anything... We know.

[laurabambam]

With the best will in the world, we are not the same. About 10 years ago there was a respect of each others differences. Now it's demanded that we are the same and we're not and maybe transwoman are asking too much