Muslim STUMPS Christian With One Verse

Many Muslims love to cite Mark 13:32 as proof that Jesus cannot be God. Here's why it doesn't work.

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[InHisImage]

This was excellent. Once upon a time, I grew up around many, many Muslims, dated a Muslim guy in high school, thought I wanted to be Muslim ("converted") and only by God's work did I realize in 3 years that I did NOT want to be Muslim and everything about it that's wrong (though it took me another 10 years to come to Christ). I wish I would've grew up with these resources. However, I'm stronger now and will give my children a strong foundation. Thank you for your work! Praise God!

[steadfastneasy]

@Red Ren Logic
If I contemplate on that Philippians passage for too long, it will put me on the floor. It is the eternal definition of graciousness. One of my most favorite passages in all of scripture. He did that for me. He saw me from the beginning and knew I would need what only He could provide. I'm not perfect by any stretch, but I am fully grateful for His grace. Jesus reigns!!

[goatsjannah]

exMuslim from Germany. I migrated from Pakistan. Now I am blessed to be a Christian 🙌✝️

[WellManNerd]

You are one of my favorite brothers in Christ on this platform.

You are not trying to promote calvinism or prosperity or any number of other things. You just promote Jesus and what it means to love and trust and worship Him

Thank you for your ministry. May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He make His face shine upon you and be gracious to you, may He turn His countenance toward you and bring you peace

[bctalicorn]

One of the best messages I heard told at my church was the revelation of Jesus not being a demigod, rather fully man and fully god. And what did this mean? It meant that Jesus chose to be not omniscient so that he could be led by the spirit in all ways. He chose to be fully man, with the spirit being in him at all times. He gave us the perfect example of what it meant to be 100% spirit lead as flesh. So in instances where he was drawn to someone (like on the road to Damascus where he found the woman at the well) that was all him being led by the spirit and following it. Completely changed how I saw Jesus, and made me love him even more. Because he had all the power to be omniscient, but instead chose to live as a man. And that's the same reason he could go through the crucifixion without saving himself. What an awesome God we serve!

[josephwheeler]

Reminds me of the question, “Can God make a rock so big that He can’t lift it?” The real question behind this is, “Can God place limits on Himself?” And we have that answer in Jesus. If God chooses to be surprised, He can be. I think He demonstrates this principle when He chooses to forget our sins- He doesn’t have a faulty memory, He just chooses to not remember.

[hozn]

Once he brought up this verse I was fully satisfied by the defense 😊
Excellent Biblical response

“And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:5‬ ‭ESV‬‬

[jasonrodgers]

I appreciate the two-nature theory that you discuss here. I also like the Augustine / Aquinas variation, in which they say the word "know" is used like in the Old Testament, when God said of Abraham "now I know that you fear God." It wasn't that God was ignorant before that moment, but that it was made real IN the moment. More in line with revealing or experiencing, in time, rather than having an intellectual knowledge.

Thank you for your work, brother!

[kingnothing]

Also important to remember, when the disciples ask again after his resurrection, he says "it is not for you to know". Not "I still don't know".

[theraphachukwu]

Very well said.
We as Christians need to be more knowledgable of our Bible... and most importantly not be afraid to defend our faith should the need arise.

[ajthemalu]

Amen! Great response and the verse you cited at the end was powerful. I never actually thought of that verse much until you expounded on it.

[Psalm_DominiRican]

Dude I love your responses! It definitely motivates me to dive deeper into the word and apologetics!

[MinyMiny]

Thanks for this answer, I’ll have to remember this!
Additionally I pray the guy who was unable to answer is okay. It’s by God’s mercy that I’m able to have an answer if presented with this question now, instead of encountering the question before the answer. If I were that Christian I know I would’ve felt like I failed God by not being able to answer or something. I pray this didn’t cause him to question his faith, or feel ashamed, but instead drew him closer to God and have him desire to seek God’s word further, to be prepared for any manner of argument

[christianviking]

Thank you brother for bringing truth to us with patience and love. I pray for you and your family and your channel. We love you.

[comfortablynumb]

Awesome answer, please keep these answered questions coming, God knows we need to be able to give an account of what we know is true, that’s our duty !

[ZEN_]

Aye its Uthman, He isnt honest at all. If he was he wouldnt be asking the same question, over, and over again. After it being answered, over, and over again. He is just using this Arguments to win Social Points

[newreformationapologetics]

I was just about to put down Philipians 2:5- until you just outright said it🤣 This text is specifically useful for oneness theology as well. Unfortunately, in Islam, they have presuppositions that do not allow for a proper handling of the text, namely shirk. I'd ask a Muslim if Allah is made up of parts. They usually self-destruct upon pressing that Allah is said to have hands and feet etc.

[FisherOfMenParakletos]

Beautifully put brother, alhamduliJesus!! No one inspires concise logic like this pertaining to God’s word, but the Holy Spirit Himself working through you.

[josh_final]

Actually, the phrase "only the Father knows" was a saying in Jewish wedding culture. The son would get everything ready before the wedding. He would go to the father and show the prep. Then the father would set the time of the wedding. And it wasn't even that the son or others didn't know when the wedding would be, it was that the father's role was to set the time. In the same way as it is the role of God the Father to set the time of Jesus second coming. All this to say, if we understand the Jewish wedding culture and this "saying" at the time, Jesus actually meant it was the Father's role to set the time of the second coming, not that Jesus didn't actually know the time.

[russkowal]

I once heard from a Messianic Rabbi that when Jesus said this he was speaking in terms of the Jewish Marriage custom where it is not the son's choice to when he would go to get his bride but only the father. As the son would be preparing his home for his betrothed and when the father deemed the residence ready he would send the son, the son couldn't say "hey dad, house is ready, I'm going to get my bride" only the father had the right to deem everything ready, then send the son, so It is not Jesus' right to say when he is coming...that belongs to the father.