What is reality and what is truth? | J. Krishnamurti

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What is reality and what is truth? | J. Krishnamurti

Extract from the fourth conversation with Buddhist scholars at Brockwood Park, 1979.

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[Lily-cxvo]

They followed his train of thought until humans got mixed in. What he was saying is that humans, like lions, exist. That is truth. But when humans look at, talk about, or try to identify traits in other humans, that is reality. Reality is anything that has gone through the filter of human perception. When humans refer to other humans, other humans are filtered through our understandings, through our bias. In -that- regard, humans are reality, and not truth.

[Pradoceleste]

The video ended with an amazing statement from the master. A perfect ending.

[MrZDimitri]

His conversation would not be possible without thought.

[sadiqrehman]

An excellent explanation reality and how it is different from truth

[widiudb]

Everything in this world is truth. And the reality is how we see the world.

[Antonx]

Our of this talk comes the question is reality simply an interpretation of the actual.

[jiffylimborks]

Many thanks, please share more videos like this, shortened videos

[frankbruno]

Can we simplify it this way: reality is what we realize within our brain, and the actuality, the actual, is the factual, which we may never know. Since, all we know is what we realize, which is our reality. This is quite important since it applies to every area of life. This will help us to inquire in such a way which may lead to insight and direct perception into the factual.

[robertmiller]

Its nice to see JK being challenged unreserved instead of just hearing him on a stage speak languishing on minor points until the audience agrees with his less fluid very stringent ideas and concepts

[Luke-wxe]

Nature is absolutely created by intelligent design which involves thought

[Advaitvedanta-qo]

Can you please give the link of full lecture

[Diamondmind]

I had to take a step back here my comment was getting too complex. Very confusing just because of the ruse where Jk says that reality is defined as only things created by thought. He does this to make them think about what reality really is for the sake of this argument.

It's asked by the man at 9:02

Can we reguard all that is apprehended through the senses and interpreted by the brain as reality.

Answered yes.

Hes trying to make them think for themselfs as he often does.

Asked 7:10 that means you dont take a tree as a reality ?

Answered i take it as a reality of course its a reality but its not created by thought ? Lol

You see his ruse. ?

This discussion is to separate truth and reality not to discuss what truth is. To look at what reality is.. finding truth in that realization.

Reality is all that is apprehended through the senses and interpreted by the brain. Nature creation and thought.

The only truth is this video is that nature being creation is outside of thought ? Yes ?

So truth is outside of thought. Eveything outside of the scope of thought is an absolute truth. Awareness love compassion creation nature thinking (not thought) humans. All absolute truths.

God is created by thought and so can't be a truth.

Creation is outside of thought and so it is a truth.

Definition of truth is -

that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.

Here's a hard one violence. Is violence a thought or a truth ? It's seen in nature. A bird kills a rat to survive. It's a violent kill. Is that a fact a reality. It is yes. The truth of violence is outside thought. Therfore it is a truth.

Is fear a truth ? Fear is inside thought so it cannot be a truth.

Is awareness beyond thought a truth ? It's outside thought so it must a truth. We are aware that we are thinking aware of the body.

Is the body a truth ? If we are outside of the body how can it be a truth.

It seems everything outside of the scope of thought can be regarded as a truth where as everything inside the scope of thought can be regarded as an illusion.

[stayhappylittlemermaid]

If you want something different You Gotta do something different.

[Alex]

He was just trying to say, that you can not know the truth by means of thinking.

[dhananjayshirodkar]

Reality is TRUTH! The TRUTH exists which cannot be spelt or explained. Because human brains are conditioned by past whatever there IS!

[dilipshanbhag]

This man is Genius.He is
trying to explain to the fool's

[Wouterferdinand]

Is there perhaps full video of the whole conversation?

[hassinagk]

I would give anything on Earth to understand what he is talking about in all his talks… I admire him but it seems like only few can access that « pathless truth »

[cspacenz]

….everything is thought. A tree is thought, there is nothing that is not thought. To think that something, anything, is outside of thought is just another thought. Absolutely everything is a product of our thinking, it all has the same source which is Reality. None of it is separate, how can it be ?

[Lily-cxvo]

Who’s the scholar on his left? The distinguished white guy (not the kid). He seemed to grasp what K was getting at the best.