Why It's Almost Impossible to Extract Huawei From Telecom Networks | WSJ

Allies are under U.S. pressure to shun Huawei. But the company's prevalence in existing telecom networks and dominance in 5G technology make that nearly impossible. Illustration: Crystal Tai

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[songcliff]

FBI: don't buy Huawei! They'll spy u!
Europe: OK..wait how did u know we gonna buy Huawei?
FBI: cuz we're spying on u

[ecologyrocks]

Obviously in US you don't need evidence or trial to sentence people.

[yeahihaveone]

huawei wrote most of the 5G standards and own most of the essential patents, yet america keeps saying huawei stole their "technology" lol

[Laws-Youtube]

How does uncle Sam spied the phone of German Chancellor Merkel ?
Haha! ask Snowden...

[doctornokay]

Huawei own 36% of the 5G technology patents, second company 14%. even if you don't use Huawei 5G you have to pay Huawei royalty for using their tech. LOL

[nexusyang]

What this video doesn't tell you is just how dominant their market share is on the African continent. Their market share also cover large parts of Middle East as well as South America. If you look at all the places where Huawei have invested and deployed, you'll see one thing they all share: places where America have decided not to invest.

For example, many African countries bypassed 3G and went straight from 2G to 4G in anticipation of 5G. Many of these deals are not transparent but are done in the backrooms and are definitely not subject to public scrutiny, for better or for worse. However, these countries are tech starved and when the west decided not to invest because it's "scary", the Chinese government and many Chinese companies decided it was worth the risk and have decided to expand into these places that the west have left behind.

So while the west twiddle its thumbs and slow the deployment of 5G, other countries will inevitably be leaving the west in their dust and be pushing forward into 5G and beyond. Since Huawei make cheap phones and a large amount of that vertical business, who do you think telecoms and countries want to deal when when it comes to negotiating contracts? Do you want to deal with multiple vendors with different time lines and schedules and languages or do you just want to deal with one company that can give you everything and are willing to put down other essential infrastructure like roads, hospitals, and football stadiums?

When the Chinese invest in Africa, they literally are bringing more than just the kitchen sink.

[tuoli]

knocking out huawei? US would need 50 eyes.

[TonyChen]

Just changed to mate 20 pro from iPhone. I can only say: huawei shocked me in its progression in every aspect.

[newyorkglassking]

have you experienced something like this, someday you and your friend talked about wanting to buy a new shoe or a new car, and the next time you open your Facebook, there is a shoe or car ads on the page.

[desmondlau]

Aside from a massive budget, it's truly astounding how huawei could get so ahead in its equipments technology. I'm truly impressed. Maybe those Chinese in China are super brilliant bunch after all.

[WengMarco]

Thanks to trump make huawei so famous and seems so powerful, last year I didn’t even know huawei, next phone huawei thanks !

[justsauce]

In greece Huawei is everywhere and cosco

[gzcwnk]

and the USA would not for say Cisco? yeah right.

[AntonioCostaRealEstate]

Interoperability for 5G must be published somewhere in IEEE journals. So it isn’t as if Huawei owns the standards, hence the only way for a fully end to end turnkey system. I assume if standards are open to everyone, yet one owns a best of breed, then work with it, not against it.

Let vendors do their business and buyers perform their own due diligence. And make sure everyone adheres to a standard where you can work with vendor A and B meeting your budgetary and performance goals with clearly written security standards so that everyone can adhere to.

Outside of Government Contracts ( and the US has gear vendors who actually have Supplier Clearance, the GSA issued IDs ) it should be fair game to everyone else, including the Chinese, to peddle their wares. Even within US OEM vendors not a single one covers end to end. So the mere idea a single vendor has the only access to your 5G rollout is fallacy. At worst you may have to chose a specific vendor if you own their legacy gear, hence needing to stay with the vendor for a least costly migration.

Harris makes great radios but it won’t be as effective in the routing gear segment, where CISCO is king. And multiplexing gear, that is where ADC or RADWare shine. And then there are antennae companies, and backhand gear vendors. I am sure that, outside CISCO

If Americans want a plain level field, then enforce interoperability standards and put an end to one vendor does it all ( unless private labeling ) strong arm tactics on sourcing for private carriers.

And all claims only the Chinese steal intelectual property are pure malarkey. Everyone does. Apple stole the GUI and mouse click technology from Xerox in Palo Alto. Microsoft stole it from Apple. There are no saints in this game, everyone is a sinner. Industrial espionage and brain drainage is rampant in this field.

If Huawei owns the least cost to 5G and Beehive Telecom in Utah wants it, then let them have it. Standardize tests so that no security is compromised, send an FCC tech there to validate the install and get done with it. Their allocated CAPEX is tight and funded by your Mr Tax Payer through your phone bill contributions. Trust me, it ain’t squandered. And it benefits a lot of folks in rural communities.

It ain’t the Chinese’s fault dumb American CEOs gutted Lucent / Bell Labs, the same CEOs who slowly decimated Motorola, the Canadian sank Northern Telecom, and both Countries can’t produce enough Engineering Grads to fulfill the demand to grow new technologies. The American private sector did a poor job in protecting and nurturing their Crown Jewels. The Chinese Government, on the other hand, embraced their growth industries, bankrolled them, and are not here to give American Business a free pass. Their compromise is to their own as American Multinationals where to Americans.

And as for handset sales , this an entire separate business.

And keep your Crown Jewels locked up, as to the case for semiconductors.

It amazes me how The Federal Government bailed out car makers and To Big to Fail Financial Business but let’s telecom gear makers to go under ( thanks to Bill Clinton insane telecom deregulation edicts and then Bill Tauzin for killing competition ).

And then we have to listen on this blaming the Chinese for all our ills, when in fact they were simply being shrewd and leaped ahead. Yes they do copy and steal. Yet they hire more Engineers and fewer lawyers and bean counters.

[ramen]

Aside from these tech political rivalry, the animation of this video is really fun and enjoyable to watch through.

[tristanmoller]

Thank you that was quality information and explained a lot. They are currently expanding our telecommunications network to 5G here in Germany and this debate came up. Huawei's importance and growth surprised me. Thought they only produce phones for Asia but ya learn every day

[taktsing]

"Does US do eavesdropping?"...."Well, you can have your answer from Snowden."
"Does China do eavesdropping?"..."Well, you might have your answer from US Government."

[mukhtarullahsiddiqi]

American attitude is very harsh and i don't cosider america as a peacful and democtratic country

[CTOInformation]

stop blaming China, blame the system, look at the gap between rich and poor in the US.

[amvkarthik]

Ironically a Huawei ad at the end. Brilliant and cunning I say.