Debunking CS Lewis - Richard Dawkins

[poke_warrior]

Alex low key pisses Dawkins off every time he plays devils advocate lmao. As a deconverted Christian, I do love how Alex absolutely knows the Christian argument. It’s what makes him so effective at dismantling it.

[jackdemarais]

So much respect for Alex. Someone who gives a fair shake to both the theist and atheist perspectives and still honestly expresses their own beliefs is the example to which all of us should aspire.

[tomarmstrong]

Lewis’s quote “a desire which nothing in this world can satisfy “ and Dawkins proceeds to give examples of desires this world can satisfy

[CWojcieszak]

I love that, even if its in good faith and more to have a little laugh than anything, the fact that you're actually trying to counter his argument is fantastic. It's good to think critically about the opposition's argument, it's even better to give the same treatment to those on your side of the argument

[moderndayheretic]

I have a lot of respect for Lewis, but I agree with Dawkins here, it’s not a good argument.

[StephenJohnson-xgkj]

*Alex: accidentally starts debunking Dawkins' point
*Alex: I'm only joking.

[holdenstrausser]

Almost no one in these comments understands Lewis argument: we have desires that cannot be satisified by anything in this world. All desires have some object that is grounded in reality. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that those desires that cannot be satisified by this world can be satisified by something not in this world. But if those desires are truly mere daydreams, why do we have them? Its like having hunger but never hearing of food.

[usptact]

Dawkins doesn’t address directly what was said. Instead he creates some weird analogy.

[MomentumCanada]

Umm…am I the only one that noticed how Dawkins missed the point? Lewis said “a desire that can’t be satisfied in this world”. He didn’t say the desire to keep on living in this world. The longing and unsatisfied desires we have while living here.
As a Christian, I honestly don’t think much about living forever. It’s more so that I long for things that I haven’t ever experienced.

[Phillold]

Dawkins says that is a bad argument and then comes up with his own bad argument.

[thegoalsfather]

He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men, yet they cannot fathom the work that God has done from beginning to end. - Ecclesiastis 3:11

[zachdavenport]

I don’t think it’s the strongest argument, but I also don’t think the argument was actually presented here.

[nzadventurefamily]

I don’t think Lewis is arguing that we all desire God. I think Lewis is talking about desires that we all have that can never be fully satisfied in this world. Things like true inner peace, complete freedom, perfect, pure love, etc.

Lewis is saying that God put these desires in us, and they will be satisfied in a different world.

[rafd]

I am sure, if CS Lewis was alive, that he would have batted away R Dawkin’s bouncers.

[bigvwfan]

I wish Alex hadn't cancelled his joke - Richard Dawkins squirming is a feast for the eyes 😍

[PaulMcCaffreyfmac]

Even as an agnostic I find the idea of god laughing in Dawkins' face very satisfying.

[kf]

Dawkins almost headbutting the host at the end. 😂

[ethanpreston]

Dawkins fundamentally misunderstands Lewis’s argument though. Lewis is not talking about wanting to live forever, he is speaking of a desire for a joy that nothing in the material world is able to provide. Just because I’m hungry doesn’t mean I will get food, but it points to the fact that something exists that could satiate my hunger.

[bmike]

Dawkins was given the exact premise. Merely seconds later answered in multiple ways that had nothing to do with the premise.

[rapsimons]

Alex - “I’m pulling your Leg” Dawkins - “That’s not my Leg😉”