432 Hz? You Miiiight Want To Check Your Sources

Sometimes finding how a trend started leads you to disturbing places.

[a_]

Couldn't have predicted LaRouche would make an appearance. Truly one of the most unhinged people in modern history.

[mattnieri]

So according to history, you're fascist if you like 440, and you're fascist if you like 432. Sounds fair.

[nicosuj]

That explains why after tuning everything 432Hz Youtube and instagram started to recommend those Alpha and sigma male channels, I read the word "Agenda" so many times it lost it's meaning to me.

[squarelanguage]

Most people probably don’t listen to either 440 or 432 anyway. Often songs are played pitched up on the radio. Older recordings were sometimes pitched up when recorded on tape with varispeed to sound more energetic or to get all the separate recordings in the same pitch (e.g. Beatles “Strawberry Fields”). Janet Jackson’s “Rhythm Nation” was pitched up and sounds better pitched up, but also crashed particular hard drives. Adam Neely has a good video about this also. And then there’s DJ mixes played at varying tempos. If anything, tempo probably has more of an effect on mood or anxiety than actual tuning. That’s why it’s called “down tempo” or “up beat”.

[DisintegrationZerfall]

I tune my A to 4.32 Hz so only Elephants can enjoy it. Since then my audience got HEAVYLY invested in my music.

[ewencousin]

From my experiences either in pro big band, or jazz combo, we usually ask for the piano to be tuned at 441 or 442 Hz, because the brass (I was trumpeter) are often higher in tune. The temperature variations make the sax/brass instruments drift. And moreover I recorded a small year ago with a bagad (breton trad orchestra) and a 7tet, with very high tuned instruments, so we had to tune up till 448 Hz (we could see it on the rev 2) and still felt low in tune. (And then, I don't think being the only one feeling that 440 Hz is low^^). But It's not - in my opinion - a subject worth to talk much about.

[MikeRenouf]

Yep. Aphex Twin's 'Come to Daddy' at 432 Hz is SOOOo much more calming.... 😏

[MelindaGreen]

The studies were triple-blinded which is where the subject doesn't know what they're getting, the provider doesn't know what they're administering, and the researcher doesn't know what they're doing.

[PosyMusic]

I agree with you. 440Hz is just a convenience to make instruments play in harmony, nothing more. Music can be out of tune in any way you want. In the early days I did that a few times myself by accident because I started with a sample of something that wasn't an instrument to begin with (and then tuned all other sounds to it, instead of the other way around...)

[chrismillett]

As a music therapist myself, I always feel like you validate so much about my experience. We, as music therapists, are dealing with these misconceptions like 432 Hz and the Mozart effect and how they impact what people think I do (which is not magic lol).

[mitchohriner]

That was a wild, wild ride! It's just so impressive how many skills you possess in music making, research, and public communication.

[AdamGoodlet]

As a 432Hz music advocate, I LOVE this video! I use 432Hz tuning to align a system of harmonic BPMs, by using this as the tuning frequency, the harmonic BPMs are much easier numbers to use in a DAW, with fewer decimal places to allow this. The system of harmonic BPMs have changed my live set for the better in amazing ways - Every sound I create can be used at any BPM and be in-tune with the performance.... I've been performing electronic music for 25 years, and the harmonic BPM framework has been the most significant thing I've done! Your analysis of the nonsense and waffle is amazing - for me, it's all about the maths and the fundamental numbers - Intention trumps tuning 100% of the time! Thanks Benn.

[VIRALBEATS]

I always wondered where this conversation came from..."Post truth" is right. There seems to be a collective revisiting of these fascist watermarks, that is entirely intentional. I'm glad that people are picking up on it, and you are sharing this, on your platform. Great work!

[VivekPatel-zejy]

The only thing 432Hz achieves is triggering people with perfect pitch

[kitwheston]

I have a feeling these comments are gonna get spicy, and the video isn't even out yet... this and your women in producing video are amazing, please keep covering topics like this!

[machinageist]

This was excellent. I wish there was content like this about the 528hZ solfeggio stuff too. Many of the websites promoting these concepts of present the two as if they are both simultaneously true, and they are wildly inharmonic with each other. One other thing I would like to note is that many of the 432 proponents also wish to abandon even temperament and use whole number values for note frequencies. Which would make simply tuning your instruments or recordings down 32cents insufficient anyway. The vast majority of music made in 432 is still even temperament though, negating much of the claimed of esoteric value. The whole thing doesn't stan up to the least bit of critical investigation.

[JimAlfredson]

I love Neely's video and often link it to people online. As a professional piano tuner, the A432 thing just makes me laugh. Pianos are not only tuned to Equal Temperament, which results in lots of irrational numbers for each pitch other than A4, but must also be stretch tuned, so they don't even follow the actual mathematical formula for Equal Temperament, instead varying wildly as you go up and down the octaves. This means that tuning A4 to 432Hz often doesn't result in C4 being exactly 256Hz anyway. It can vary by half a Hertz or more depending on the size of the piano, the length of the strings, how the piano is scaled, etc. It's usually another irrational number like 256.12Hz or 256.73Hz.

It's all just nonsense that preys on one's ignorance.

[reaganharder]

You know, I did an experiment for a highschool psychology class regarding 432 tuning, and I found no correlation. Granted, my method was based on a highly subjective ranking of how relaxing a song was to a person, and my sample size was something like 8 teenagers, but if we want to be dealing with tiny and poorly conducted studies, I feel we should add my research to the pile.

[lefunghi]

What a ride, loved every minute of it. The sheer etertainment value of some of these insane rabbit holes is just great

[JimVajda]

Great video, I didn’t expect Lyndon LaRouche! My challenge to 432 Hz is why is it only a note’s fundamental frequency and none of its harmonic content that makes it “in tune with the earth” or whatever? No matter the tuning, most music has a lot of information at 432 Hz. Cut it with a notch filter to hear the difference.