It Took 15 People To Write THIS Song?

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In today's episode I dig deeper into the strange phenomenon of why it now takes an army to write a pop song.

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As rick rubin said, when audience is taken into the writing, its not art, its commerce. Mic drop

Daanguitarhero
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“There is no singular vision to this.”

Nailed it. It’s faceless and could have been recorded and written by anybody.

ahelleneauthor
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Doesn't sound like a Coldplay song, it sounds like someone else just hired Christ Martin to sing on their track.

mtbrdude
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"We Pray" this song to be over

jimcanani
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This is what happens when bands try to be "relevant" instead of just being themselves.

Emburbujada
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“How many people does it take to write a song?” …
Sounds like a start of a bad joke.

lexworld
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This is music made for content. This isn't art, this was programmed to be used for tiktoks.

khaiamdar
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Makes you appreciate someone like Prince. Literally no outside songwriters, no producer, no nothing. Did everything himself from the beginning of his career right until the end.

TheMotiveDJ
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sounds like I never want to hear it again

jobogaert
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It’s wild that the same people that made Parachutes and A Rush of Blood to the Head are making uninspired dance pop today.

EricTangy
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This is honestly feels like a Premium Beat royalty-free track you'd hear on a student film.

JCridford
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We have a proverb in Poland: "Where there are six cooks, there is nothing to eat." This also applies to the situation with "preparing" songs.

angelusrufus
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Jeff Lynne... sends the band out to watch a football match... writes Evil Woman. Too many cooks kills the modern song

CasualSpud
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Boring is a great way to put it. They each had to make a contribution so devoid of anything interesting or engaging so it didn’t clash with anything else.

samuelbrown
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This is a popular complaint in academic research too. The argument is a little different though and is about crediting work for promotion and muddying the simple device of authorship as a signal of merit. As research gets harder, the productivity gains from division of labor are increasingly important. Some fields are so dominated by authorship incentives that they don't work across fields when it would clearly benefit their research. As a grad student, I was a critical part of three research papers that my name isn't on for petty professional gamesmanship reasons. I put essentially anyone that was tangentially involved on my papers as a coauthor.

robgriffin
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Think 12 would be perfect. Each one gets one note.

pqjiktl
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Random guy accidentally walks into the studio thinking it was the men's room...boom! He's on the writers list!😂

nutsbutdum
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"Making music boring." 👏👏👏 🤝

brainchild_tm
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Ric, why hasn't the music industry come up with a way to split songwriting share without crediting people that did not actually write the song? I understand an artist, or a producer might ask for a cut, it is a business after all, but having to share a writing credit when you wrote the song yourself is quite harder than the actual percentage. Then you see the artist or producer go on interviews talking about how they wrote the song!!! Then they might even go up to receive an award and literally fake the whole thing. It is sickening when you're in that situation and I think splitting publishing but without credit would solve this injustice.

tommytorres
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15 writers and this still sounds like a song I’ve heard before

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