Linus is having a real rough go of it, isn't he? | Reacting to Linux Daily Driver Challenge pt. 2

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Linux can be weird, Linux can be broken. And LinusTechTips' latest Linux Daily Driver Challenge (part 2) video has really shown there are still glaring issues with using a Linux-based OS as your daily OS.

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0:00 - Linux Gaming Challenge
1:15 - Rules of Engagement
1:45 - Running apt on Manjaro
2:54 - Weird shell issue
4:05 - OBS just works?
4:38 - Nvidia's drivers just suck
5:23 - Luke's OBS install experience
6:02 - Passing hardware through to a VM
7:55 - Linus' audio interface
9:57 - GitHub file explanation
11:57 - Luke's deep voice issue
14:09 - Pamac's hidden button
15:08 - KDE's UX being KDE's UX
15:36 - A mountain of confusion
16:29 - Linus' conclusion

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Finally a Linux user who doesn't immediately forget their years of Linux experience and thinks everything is super easy for new users. Coming from r/Linux to this is a breath of fresh air lmao.

Ski
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0:38 - Linux Gaming Challenge
1:15 - Rules of Engagement
1:45 - Running apt on Manjaro
2:54 - Weird shell issue
4:05 - OBS just works?
4:38 - Nvidia's drivers just suck
5:23 - Luke's OBS install experience
6:02 - Passing hardware through to a VM
7:55 - Linus' audio interface
9:57 - GitHub file explanation
11:57 - Luke's deep voice issue
14:09 - Pamac's hidden button
15:08 - KDE's UX being KDE's UX
15:36 - A mountain of confusion
16:29 - Linus' conclusion

gardiner_bryant
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Goes 3 menus and a password entry deep, "why would he call it hidden"

schultzy
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I think what Linus meant by "hidden" option to enable flatpak was that by default it doesn't show those packages and you just have to know that you need to enable it before you can use them. If you don't know about flatpak, how would you know what to look for. "I just want to install my damn software, not get a degree in package management configuration"

rikschaaf
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yeah, I often suffer from the "curse of knowledge" when I watch this stuff.
I'm like "oh that's easy! just use <insert command here>!"
but then I see linus busy and most of the time I'm like "huh... yeah that's not an unreasonable guess from a windows' guy perspective..."
I don't know, I'm at least happy to see that with the little experience they have they still manage to get things done, which is indeed waaaay better than it was 12 years ago.

NiekNooijens
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Gardiner : Points out the flaws in Linux
People : I sleep


Gardiner : Makes a decaf
People : *triggered*

nogoat
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I'll call the 'hidden options' hidden. Something like that should have been asked about on first launch, not hidden away for those who know about it or take the time to explore around. You can call it preferences all day long, but when it controls access to certain things like that, aka prohibit the needed files, that's no longer optional and it's toggle being not front and center is hidden.

FlameSoulis
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Two things I noticed from the video (that may have been related):

1. One of the presenters mentions that Linux “doesn’t need to be rebooted” which is not really true for the desktop in reality
2. The OBS related issues suddenly working a few days later made me wonder if it was after a reboot: a kernel upgrade may have been pending (with driver modules built for the pending kernel and not the currently running one) which would also explain the lack of NVENC.

divest
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I think most problems come from "well you just need to know that X". People should not need to know how git works to have a nice way to get a script. People should not need to learn how shell works to try to do simple desktop tasks. If you want to Linux grow beyond the niche it goes after those things should be "error handled" by the user experience in the distro.

katarn
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As a developer, I love Linux. I work with it all the time on the server. I avoid Linux on the desktop (not including VMs). I spend enough time fighting esoteric software issues, I don't need to spend any time fiddling around with the OS as well on my downtime. I would only use Linux on the desktop on purpose built systems like a System76 machine. Even then, I stick to Windows for gaming because I don't want to spend any more time jumping through hoops just to play games.

LinChearReal
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i hate the lack of a gui for pulse config . sample rates should be under an advanced tab in the audio settings in any DE

zap
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Linus is kind of giving you the perspective of someone that uses PC's daily but arent 100% software literate. They know their way around a pc to use steam, but probably don't bother to go further than skin deep, even in windows. While I feel Linus knows more, he seems to be playing into that role intentionally.

Going into preferences and activating the AUR in that app is something most users would not even know they should do. They might wander into preferences, but most of the time they wont think to even configure it. Most people run bone stock on everything.

RitzyBusiness
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If LTT in the ends decide to do a "Linux enthusiasts reaction video" I wish the "panel" would be you, Anthony and Wendell. I love the videos of a lot more Linux-enthusiasts but you three are the ones I find the most well-balanced.

trofosila
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I just hope that this Videos rise awareness of the bad software support on Linux. Most of the Problems Linus has, could be fixed if companies gave the same attention to Linux as they do to Windows. I wouldn't even mind if the software (or drivers!) were closed source, I just wish some things would "just work" on Linux

mcjm_noonewillfindthis
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Linus nails the "know just enough to be dangerous." Coming from a command line Debian machine, my adventures in Linux Mint were immediately destructive because I underestimated how "user-friendly" the system is designed to be (and therefore wasn't designed to be used through bash.)

JayMaverick
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Manjaro could possibly done something like make a fake apt executable that will output something like "Use pacman, you dummy! Manjaro does not use apt." or something more polite whenever someone decided to type in "apt-get [something something...]"

fazlymawlarafi
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"now his first instinct is to go to the terminal and install stuff"

...Yeah. Because everybody yelled at him and called him an idiot for not going to the terminal to do stuff, because it's supposedly much easier. Now you are saying "why would he go to the terminal?" Literally can never win.

Also add and remove software is horrible.

ShinDMitsuki
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It's not hidden, you just have to know it exists and where to find it...

iperson
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"It's not hidden" Proceeds to Make 3-4 clicks AND enter a password prompt

shixzie
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10:20 I think what he was complaining about the fact that the file was saved as a ".sh" file instead of ".html" which is stupid and I agree with Linus

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