What Disney & Uber Don’t Want You to Know

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When you sign up for Disney+ & Uber, you’re tricked into signing away rights you never knew you had. Buried deep in your terms of service is a “forced arbitration clause.” It takes away your right to bring corporations to court — and lets them get away with harming you.
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None of this is legal in the EU. Don't blame the buttons, blame the law giving these absurd powers to corporations.

cancerino
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The Disney TOS in their Disney+ app meaning you can't sue Disneyland/Disneyworld is actually disgusting, and I've made a point of telling everyone who has children to never take their kids there. Disney turned magic into lawyer magic

Yes I know that Disney dropped that clause for the man, but they only did that after millions outcried on social media. Disney hopes that you will forget.

kevinh
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The ability to sign away your right to sue is ridiculous.

yavvivvay
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Terms and conditions are presented like it can be "negotiated, " but in reality, they're a "take it or leave it" agreement. Another illusion of freedom.

jermainemyrn
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Yep, our politicians not only don't care they are complicit.

markhaseley
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“When the corporations rob the poor, it’s called business ... When the poor fight back, it’s called violence.” – Mark Twain

MayOdinGuideYou
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Arbitrators are NOT independent, they depend on companies hiring them, so they are clearly incentivised to be biased towards companies rather than consumers.

jon
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Whenever i get those "we changed the contract terms without your consent" BS emails, i always reply back with a counter-proposal with my own new terms for the contract. Terms very much in my favor.
And then finish it with "by replying to this email with an automated message, you are indicating that you agree to these terms."

nottiification
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As if these corporations who pay tens of millions of dollars to their CEO don't have the means to cover the damages for an accident the company caused. I am so fed up with greedy corporations!

ronniew
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I read a while back about a refrigerator manufacturer that *printed a TOS on the box.* The customer never even saw the box, but still had to fight it. Keep an eye on your cereal boxes. "Customer Rights" is quickly fading into a fantasy.

brittb
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It was in the news. A man who died on a Disney World ride - his wife was unable to sue Disney because the man had Disney+ and signed the forced arbitration clause.

chernobyl
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This is important. Back in the day, corporations were held accountable for negligence. Now, there's legal work arounds in terms of service.

mamatrain
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This is why I don’t pay for any of these subscriptions and don’t feel bad about it.

winesap
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lets not blame the buttons. it's the legal system that's broken. it shouldn't be possible for them to take away your rights through a contract.

you can't make a legal contract that makes murder legal. so why can they make a contract which makes taking away your right to justice or privacy legal?

ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvawehr
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Luigi reminded us all what our mandatory arbitration clase is inside this deliberatly rigged system.

Praisethesunson
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Not just products. The company I work for, big company, has an arbitration disclosure agreement every applicant must sign. Workplace violence against a $14-$20/hr associate goes to arbitration. Disgusted every time I see the “win” email reporting how much we saved with arbitration. Something needs to change.

boldfaith
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I heard Saint Luigi has come up with a nifty little solution for this sort of thing.

Qaeta
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I don't understand how these arbitration clauses can be enforceable. The right to sue someone for wrongdoing should be an inalienable right, and any clause to the contrary should be unenforceable. What's next? Paying people $1 per hour simply because they signed a piece of paper saying they waive their right to minimum wage?

TruthSeeker-zt
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Reminder: As every company is racing to put AI into everything, not a SINGLE ONE has put AI into their TOS to help explain them to you.

I work in tech and I bring this up every meeting, and I'm always told to shut up and that it's bad for business or we don't have enough story points or something. I promise you that we could do this and help so many, but companies aren't interested.

kevinh
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"Let's be clear, Google is no longer in the business of sending people to the best sources of information on the web. It now hopes to be a destination site itself for one vertical market after another, including news!" - Jeremy Stoppelman, Yelp CEO

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