Peter Boghossian: Does White Priviliege Exist? (Pt 3)

--Peter Boghossian, Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Portland State University, joins David for the full hour to discuss creating atheists, concerns with academia, privilege, and pressing political issues

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[emperater]

Wow David, you continue to be one of the few sincere and balanced human beings on the planet looking to see actual facts about issues.

[thecorbynator]

"OFFF COOOURSE!"
Cenk Uygur

[RoccosVideos]

Lucky it only matters if you look white. I'm part Native American but look white so I benefit from white privilege.

[roylandscottness]

"I watched the Larry Elder and Dave Rubin interview and that really made me think."
David: "Hmm"
David's hmms say so much.

[Hyde_Hill]

at 10:00 I would also get professors have all three groups. They are also included among the experts that he cited earlier. Making and evaluating policy and implementing, experiencing policy are different things albeit with overlap.

[john-lenin]

White privilege is an important concept. It keeps black people wallowing in their victimhood and thereby nullifies any real political power they might have.

[knifefight]

There's black on black violence for the same reason people argue with family members more than they argue with strangers. I'm not sure why these people keep scratching their heads about this.

[cocacoola]

A couple of jews talking about how white people are unfairly looked favorably upon for being white. Classic.

[ann]

It's pretty damn simple, no one is going to look at my degree and ever ask me what sport I played.

[AngelEpinoia]

That point at 5:30 about old man privilege. 100% true. I'm 32 turning 33 in November, and I'm starting to really see people treat me differently. They want me to be their leader, yet didn't trust me in my 20s. Also check out my YouTube channel if you're into weird wizard shit.

[orangeziggy]

There has been one study done having to do with the perceived strength or danger represented by a black skin toned man versus other skin tone. When asked how big of a man, or how tall of a man, they assumed those with dark skin tones to be, they were more likely to over estimate those with black toned skin to be much bigger than their true size. The conclusion was that there is definitely something going on inside the minds of "white" people, that puts a bias on dark skin toned people, making them think they are 'bigger' men, thus creating more of a sense of being endangered. (IMO, as an aside, when it comes to the police as a whole, maybe it's not so much racism, as it is some sort of unconsciously held/biological fear imprinted in white people?)

This dude is very naive about the police.

The "blue code of silence' is very, very real and implicates the police en masse.

[msinquirer]

Oh, so, you're saying, "don't get into the water until you learn how to swim"; in reference to having a conversation about "the problem" as you state - it's not time yet. When is it? It needs to seriously begin. The delay thus far has not produced any positive results. In addition, those who have attempted to discuss this issue, once the conversation either gets heated or a "nerve" of the white person is touched - more likely their guilty conscious begins to show - that ends the conversation.
The police were never organized to protect people even though they say they are to protect and serve. They were organized to protect property and to support the status quo. Some things have changed, but as a nation, or people in general, no progress will ever be made if one group has their foot on the neck of another group. Both are hindered from moving in any way let alone a positive way. The police brutality is because of fear of the oppressed becoming powerful enough to not need the "handouts". It's a control and fear issue.
Understand, the descendants of the slaves who were brought here against their will have never got a fair chance or been compensated for the work their ancestors were forced into and the ruling majority in this country, (not to mention elsewhere in the world), has done their level best to keep these descendants suppressed, drugged, intimidated, incarcerated and even eliminated.
It will be great when people stop trying to put a band aide on the butt of America's racial issues and do the difficult work of trying to resolve the issue in meaningful ways that not only get to the root of the problem but find ways to change hearts. This issue is a heart issue; and short of that nothing of true significance will be lasting. Old bigoted mindsets will either have to change or die out like some extinct animal species.

[ASkepticalHumanOnYouTube]

I think it's worth pointing out that there are some benefits that African-Americans receive by virtue of their ethnicity—because the conversation is almost invariably about the benefits that *white* people receive. On average, black men have larger penis sizes, for example, than whites or Asians. The rates of skin cancer among African-Americans is also much lower than white people, and from my understanding, they don't even need to use sun lotion (which I find terribly annoying when I'm outdoors in the summer.) While these aren't social or economic benefits, they are nonetheless benefits that they do generally receive.

[Skeptique]

"My demographic doesn't commit anywhere near as much crime as other demographics therefore I'm privileged." The racial issue is absurd enough but Boghossian believing he has old man privilege because young men are statistically far more likely to steal just shows how ridiculous this whole concept of privilege is. By his logic women are also privileged and so are black babies. People are confusing the advantageous ability of human beings to extrapolate from statistics in order to protect themselves with being cruelly and inaccurately prejudiced because of hatred. Police and anyone else with common sense cannot approach all young men as if they are babies or old women. This is just plain stupid and I'm tired of people trying to pathologize common sense and basic self-preservation. There is nothing wrong with a store owner being cautiously observant of young men in his store and if young men don't like it then they should stop robbing stores. Their behaviour should not become the psychological burden of older men/white people/police and twisted into some irrationally guilt laden idea of privilege. It is bad enough that certain demographics are far more responsible for crimes against us, now the victims are supposed to feel worse than the transgressors? Give me a fucking break.

[theprogressiveatheist]

He watched the Dave Rubin and Larry Elder video.

[adreamroom]

I think its reasonable that there are certain privileges within certain communities that having a particular trait would make one less likely to be judged negatively. White privilege, black privilege, male privilege, female privilege, height privilege, non-disabled privilege all exist among other privileges. These are different cultural presuppositions all within different contexts and bubbles of society.

Is there institutional white privilege? I'd need to see evidence of that, specific examples within the past 20 years that are directly related to a person's whiteness that are more than isolated cases of discrimination among society that is largely non-discriminatory. Calling it white privilege sounds like resentment against an entire racial group.

[HardKore]

But like he says we need the data and evidence for white privilege.

[garylea]

I don’t have the evidence but I have good ways of thinking about If I was a white man in a country predominantly black could I claim that everyone else had black privilege. If so (it certainly stands to reason that would be the case) would we go out of our way to shame them because they had black privilege? Asking for a friend???

[ocmetals]

I used to think it wasn't real (or at least exaggerated) until I witnessed it first hand three times once I became good friends with a black man. You think everyone treats everyone else like you are being treated until they don't. It was quite infuriating once you see it happen to someone you know is awesome and the only difference is the color of their skin and what clothes they were wearing. What made me feel worse is that I was So Angry and all my friend said was... "Eh, I'm used to it." and told me to get over it because it was going to happen again and I needed to be able to deal with it if we were to stay friends.