Steve Wohlberg Misunderstanding Adventist History & the Godhead | Berean Talk

Steve Wohlberg from White Horse Media Misunderstanding the Adventist Truth About God.

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You can find the original interview with Steve Wohlberg here:

[grwaitemd]

Chapter 73 of the Desire of Ages clearly explains the Comforter which is the Omnipresence of the spirit of Christ. It is Christ himself divested of humanity. The Father was in the Son and the Son was in Father. The Son wants to be in us and we in Him.

[grwaitemd]

The SDA trinity doctrine makes God a liar and is plain and simple polytheism. The biblical research institute is the voice of the SDA General Conference and states: "The Son is not the natural, literal Son of the Father" . At Christ's baptism God the Father said: "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" Matthew 3:17. Forty days later, Satan said: "If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread" and "If you are the Son of God, throw Yourself down". If a person reads the book Patriarchs and Prophets, it has been the claim of Satan that God is a liar and God does not have a natural, literal Son which is the same position as the Quaran. It is the position of the Biblical Research Institute which is the SDA General Conference is that Jesus Christ is co-eternal which means that He has natural immortality and is not the only begotten Son of God. Thus also making the Son of God a liar. This is not biblical. 1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light that no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

[ctakiute]

Seems that the godhead issue is making a lot of noise on the SDA community. Here in Brazil too.

[maxinericheson]

John 17:3 And this is Life Eternal, that they may know the One True God & Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent!

[tanielaburewalu]

Is the Holy Spirit a “He” or “It”?
Some say the Bible calls the Holy Spirit “He” or “Him” so therefore it must be a third being, but this is incorrect.
Here are the ONLY verses that refer to the Holy Spirit as a “He” or “Him.” Verses are abbreviated.
John 14:16-17 “he shall give you another [allos] COMFORTER [parakletos], that he may abide with you forever; 17 Even the SPIRIT OF TRUTH;”
John 14:26 “But the COMFORTER [parakletos], which is the Holy Ghost, ”
John 15:26 “when the COMFORTER [parakletos] is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, ”
John 16:7 “if I go not away, the COMFORTER [parakletos] will not come unto you;”
John 16:13 “when he, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, is come, he will guide you into all truth:”
Note that EVERY verse is referring to and SPIRIT OF TRUTH.
So who is the COMFORTER and SPIRIT OF TRUTH?
In John 14:6 Jesus says, “I am the truth” and by His Spirit He is the “Spirit of truth.” (John 14:17)
And in John 14:18 Jesus said, “I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.”
It is Christ by “HIS” Spirit!

[CJ-zvbw]

Thank you so much. Anti-trinitarian is just a more modern derogatory statement I dislike for us as was the ignorant calling us semi Aryan or Aryan that the Catholics once did to those who didn’t except their Trinity. To be anti-have something means not just against but that we accept that a trinity actually exists. We don’t think that Trinity is biblical so there is nothing to be against if there isn’t something that we believe exists.

[maxinericheson]

Wohlberg is confused! Jesus Christ Yeshuah spoke of Himself as the Comforter!

[jules]

I cant understandable how anyone, who studies things out as way far as they can go, in prayer, & wanting to know the truth, still cannot see...

[maxinericheson]

The organized SDA church is giving up Ellen White!

[maxinericheson]

The organized SDA church has already reached across the gulf & clasped hands with rome!

[maxinericheson]

The SDA pioneers were NOT trinitarian!

[WantcJesus]

What a powerful, clear and concise Berean Talk. I praise the Father and the Son for pouring out Their Spirit upon you, Pastor Vasko and Pastor Jason as you presented this truth with a Christlike spirit.
It was the first time my family and I had ever seen the Signs of the Times quote from March, 1908.
Is it known who the author was who answered the question sent in to the ST publication so eloquently?
We are joyous to know this quote was written while Ellen White was alive. We are joyous that it was written after the Desire of Ages which the Trinitarian and Tritheist supporters erroneously say over and over proves that Ellen returned to Trinitarianism or never left it. Could any opinion be more misrepresented or blatantly wrong?

[DonjohnsonBG]

The Holy Spirit is not Jesus; Doug Batchlor said the exact same thing. You said even though He’s called the Spirit of Christ the Holy Spirit is not Jesus Wow! that’s evidence that the Holy Spirit who you(Steve) think is not Christ own Spirit does not have a personal name. Paul clearly tells us who the Spirit is; 2 Corinthians 3:17 says: “Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty” Who is the Lord? 2 Corinthians 4:5 says “For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord..”

[TheRazor]

Froom had a major role in the Trinity doctrine being in the Seventhday Adventist churches today, he was a Jesuit and Masonic follower

[DonjohnsonBG]

The Question I have for Steve and SDA Trinitarians that I know can’t be answered but I’m going to say it anyway and that is How the Holy Spirit is related to God and Christ? They all believe He’s God, He’s Co-equal, He’s One with them(God and Christ) He can be grieved, He glorify Christ etc. but not one time in talking about the Holy Spirit(as a separate divine person) how He’s related. Notice what Ephesians 3:14-15 Says: “For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, [15] Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named” The Bible clearly says there’s a Family in Heaven; A family consists of individuals that are related to each other and all have names; for example: Jesus(name) is related to God who’s name is Jehovah in that he is his Son.The Angel that stands in the presence of God who is a member of the Family in Heaven name is Gabriel(Luke 1:19) So what about the Holy Spirit? I find it very strange for someone who is not the Father nor the Son he’s a separate divine person who has no name, no scripture evidence He has a God form like Christ (Phillip 2:5-6) no evidence He’s a physical being(Acts 7:55-56 Stephen only saw God and Jesus) The Angels in Heaven worship Him that sits on the throne and the Lamb(Rev 5:11-13) yet He gets all the credit that really belongs to the Father in Christ ministry on Earth. Christ clearly says; works that I do in my Father’s name(John 10:25) as well as the words he speaks is of the Father that dwelleth in him (John 14:10)

[milkaurosevic]

Amen, thank you for such a detailed explanation. May God help every soul to be able to understand. This is salvation to know who we worship and whom we believe. .

[theresaadams]

Thank you both for the clear explanation to share with others. 🙏🙏
Particularly at 1:06:00 The question and answer re The Trinity - ST March 04, 1908, pg 2.

[ShellbieB]

To the Laodiceans...

Revelation 3:20-21 KJV
[20] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. [21] To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

I believe we are once again rejecting Christ just as the Jewish nation. This is how we will be judged. This is the Shaking time.

Note the thrones
If God the Father, Jesus and the Spirit of God are co-equal, co-eternal and co existent, or even as some believe, the same person, or 3 persons in one, ... no matter how it’s sliced, we have a problem with the thrones. We can NOT sit at the throne of the Most High, or sit equal to Him. Heaven forbid that we even think of such a thing! This is the Antichrist spirit. There truly is an order. Jesus was the Lamb of God, and as Christ’s lambs Jesus has invited us to sit on his throne just as the Father invited Jesus to sit on his throne. How beautiful, loving and kind. He gave his life so we could be triumphant in Him.

1 Corinthians 11:3 KJV
[3] But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Ephesians 5:23 KJV
[23] For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

John 14:28 KJV
[28] Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

FATHER
⬇️
JESUS
⬇️
MAN
⬇️
WOMAN

NOT...

Father➡️Son➡️Spirit➡️🧔🏽➡️👩🏼‍🦰

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God the Father has a beautiful and wonderful order to things. There is safety in order. There is protection in this order. God is LOVE, and only the father could protect his Son as he did. It’s an order of responsibility and love, and Satan has been after it with murder in his heart for a very long time.

[maxinericheson]

I’m anti trinitarian! I live in Washington State & need like believers to worship worship with!