Questions You Are NOT ALLOWED to Ask! A Second Conversation with Patrik Holmqvist

Another conversation with *Patrik Holmqvist* of the Tychos GeoAxial Binary Model and the Tychosium,
hosted by *David Mathisen* of The Undying Stars and *Kesenya Moore* of Guiding Star Astrology
on 30 June 2024,
Exploring The *Questions You Are Not Allowed to Ask*
and the evidence that we are being *deliberately deceived* --
and what we should do about it.

*If* Johannes Kepler had to falsify his Mars data in order to promote his heliocentric model of the solar system -- you might want to ask some questions about that model.

*If* modern-day supporters of Kepler's heliocentric model have to discard around 50% of their measurements of stellar parallax (explained in this discussion) -- you might want to ask some questions about that model.

*If* the Apollo 11 astronauts could not remember seeing any stars during their supposed manned trip to the Moon in 1969 -- you might want to ask some questions about whether NASA has been dishonest with the American people (and the men and women of the rest of the world) for the past 55 years.

and *IF* (as the Tychos research of Simon Shack demonstrates) our Moon and its orbital period has astonishing harmonies with the orbital periods of virtually every other orbiting body in our solar system, is it possible that the motions of the heavenly bodies impact one another -- and impact men and women on Earth as well (as the motions of the Moon can be absolutely shown to do), just as *Astrology* has always said that they do, and just as cultures around the world have taught and believed for centuries?

What are the ramifications of Questions that we are not even allowed to ask without being insulted or marginalized?

Join us for another terrific conversation with Patrik Holmqvist!

And be sure to visit these previous conversations as well:

"Simon Shack, Tycho Brahe, Retrograde Mars, and the Vital Importance of The Moon"

"Meet the Tychos Model of our Binary System!"

"Meet the Tychos, Part 2!"

"Permission to Ask Questions! Conversation with Patrik Holmqvist: Tychos and More"

And, for some conversations about evidence which is being pointedly ignored by the keepers of the conventional paradigm of ancient history, about which you are not allowed to ask questions without being mocked or insulted or marginalized by those defenders of orthodoxy, see also these two recent discussions:

"White Crown, Red Crown: Celestial Egypt and Ancient History!"

"How the Narmer Palette Totally Destroys Ancient History"

[xyzoub]

Hi Patrik, David, and Kessenya, thank you for the great interview. Do you think you could organize a sort of debate between between someone presenting the geo-heliocentric Tychos model with someone introduced to it or someone who doesn't believe it? It is very difficult to present the topic since 1. it goes against the accepted heliocentric model and 2. it goes against the indirect evidence related to the history of space exploration. How to introduce this model without appearing as a mad-man? You have to go over the history of science which takes time. I found perhaps presenting the ancient (Ptolemaic) view of the world helps; also mentioning the scientific postulate of *dark matter* (which everyone has heard about but no one understands) as a necessary condition only in the heliocentric model, while pointing out it is the conceptual equivalence of the ancient view of _Ether_ (the fifth element) or Ptolemy's bizarre epicycles: there is no need for the postulate of dark matter in a semi-geocentric model or geo-heliocentric model.

[mattcrawford]

Yes please have the next convention here in Vic!

Perhaps the most interesting implication of the tychos in relation to Michelson Morley is the premature dismissal of the “ether”

And let’s not forget about the “cult” (obvious front) much closer to home and significant this very week. The so called “the family”

Thanks Patrik, David and Kesenya

Kilroy was here. 😉

[stephaniemcguire]

I feature your channel and Kesenya's on my home page. I enjoy many subjects and many perspectives. ...and, yes, I dare to even question this whole globe earth taught to us since we could toddle in books and cartoons and movie and tv show credits, lol, or is that the only thing we can't question, ... 😉

[richardbonner]

Thank You, All three of You..., for simply honestly discussing ideas; 'models'; "sects"; points of view / perspectives...

One of the 'giants' of logical, authentic (Scientific with a capital "S"), actually true thought, gave Us a 'bed-rock', firm foundation for thinking by observing that :
"The mark of an educated Man (or Woman) is that They can entertain (consider) an idea without either immediately accepting or rejecting it."

Whether it's a postulation of Copernicus or Tycho Brah or Keppler or Einstien or Bohr or even one of Walt Disney's imaginary Characters like Donal' Duck or Pluto... the postulate -- rather the One presenting the idea -- shouldn't be a matter of concern nescessarally.
Because,
A "Truth" stands on It's Own, and a lie -- or any other figment of a de-ranged 'mind' -- falls under it's own wieght.
🙂
Rick Bonner Pennsyltuck

[jetpetty]

This topic is endlessly fascinating. I wonder how much is truly know about the mechanics of our solar system and how much is speculation and grift in disguise?

[learnaboutastrology]

Astrologers use both heliocentric and geocentric.

[richardbonner]

53:36
There are only two mistakes One could make :
To believe things that are not so, or to not know ('believe') things that are so.
🙂
Rick Bonner Pennsyltuck

[nickgartside]

No stars in nasa's video, because one could verify the time and location of the alleged event.😮

[Jesusifer]

The easiest person to deceive is someone seeking the truth. The best liars are those who think they know the real truth.
The hardest people to fool are con artist/magicians.

[reivanen]

dude has same problem as most conspiracy theorists. They find one that is true, and then go on to all too easily believe even the most bizarre ones.

Like no thrust in space?! You are ready to throw conservation of momentum out the window.

Like no satellites?! what are those strings of lights? "high altitude plane towing lights" :D which also conveniently provide high speed low latency internet if you point a satellite dish at them.

[stefanandersson]

Two things:
1. Patrik and also you seem to have a bad grasp of the physics behind the rocket's propulsion. Patrik's description is completely wrong. Rockets are not propelled forward thanks to pressure on the atmosphere. The gas that burns in the combustion chamber throws particles away in all directions, both forwards and backwards relative to the direction of the rocket. The particles that are pushed backwards disappear into the vacuum of space, while particles that travel forward push the rocket forward. In addition, Patrik lies or omits the truth about the article in the New York Times. But you will have to find out for yourself.

2. There is an astronomer who has recently started to review the Tychos model and he intends to go through the entire book.  The status after the first chapters is promising for those of us who believe in science, but tough for Simon, Patrik and others who would rather follow their gut feeling than trust the facts.

Since I cannot post links here, you can search for "review of tycho's model" to get to Professor Park's PhD and the review.