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Has anyone else noticed the irony of our General Election on 4 July and the US Presidential Election on 5 November?

gordonconnah
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They can't leave and rejoin whenever they like, it's up to the 27 members of the EU, now Labour want's to renegotiate the Brexit deal or try to do cherrypicking by negotiations but the EU won't allow that, the UK is a 3rd country now and that means 3rd country rules.

bertoverweel
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Remember that it's been 8 years since the referendum

aledjango
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@10:40 But you DO have another vote on the president in the US - every 4 years. In a democracy voters are entitled to change their mind (after a reasonable amount of time of course). Also the electorate change over time - old people die, new and young voters enter the electorate. So I don't think another referendum would be undemocratic.

mrm
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14:23 I agree that negotiations should be on equal terms, but that also means that the EU would treat GB just like any other candidate. You should also bear in mind, though, that these exeptions were originally negotiated back when the EU had only 10 member states that would need to agree. They would need to bring MUCH more to the table to convince 27 member states now, the majority of which had to comply to ALL the rules to join.

jhdix
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As a French living in the uk, I totally agree, never accept the uk back until they fully adhere to the idea of Brexit. The problem is they only ever saw the EU as an economic deal, when it is a peace project. And also they never fully considered themselves to be part of Europe. The referendum was totally skewed and if it had been legally binding, it would have been voided due to funding issues on the Brexit side. But at the same time, I agree with Charles de Gaulle. He vetoed Britain’s’ accession to the EU 3 times before they were allowed to join, and we should have always vetoed their entry. A lot of things in the EU would have been possible if they hadn’t been there, and so I deffo don’t want them back.

maxxie
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The EU is not a gym membership you can subscribe and unsubscribe to in a couple of years. It is a political project, which the UK has never truly belonged to nor respected.

In the past, the UK used to threaten the EU with Brexit whenever they didn't want to sign a new treaty. The UK has lost all its leverage now. If they want to join back, they'll do it as a new member state, meaning they'll have to adopt all EU legislation and treaties, including the euro and Schengen. That's not really up for debate or negotiation, it is literally the process for any new country to join the EU. Why should the UK be treated any differently as any other member state?

PAHDIJDFFDL
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1:05 That's a poll showing Labour has 46% of the *vote*, while the Tories have around 23%. So yeah, that's a huge margin. And that was before Reform started rising on the polls. The gap between Labour and the Tories could be even bigger by next week.

JordiVanderwaal
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The EU *might* have considered the UK re joining but they would have required a guarantee that within a few years we would not leave again. The rise of The Reform Party in the UK, with Nigel Farage at the helm, makes giving this sort guarantee pretty much impossible, I believe.

jeanbicknell
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Don't want them back, absolutely not.

emiliajojo
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I say no, especially since the UK was always half out anyway. Adopting the euro has always been a major turn-off. The sad thing is the UK was too scared of doing anything radical, except have the vote in the first place and (eventually) do it.
The fact the UK is supposedly turning left while europe is turning right would certainly cause some unintended chaos. The problem is the UK media always focuses on the negatives. With all the problems across europe, I'm curious what will be the excuses if UK rejoined and hardly anyone saw any benefits.

murmursmeglos
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"YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE OUTCOME SO YOU WANT ANOTHER VOTE?"
WRONG! It's far more complex and the current governing party's (hopefully terminal) collapse in THIS general election reflects the real issue! Which is fury that the 2019 pledges to deliver a REAL Brexit (after three years + of deliberate establishment efforts to NOT honour the 2016 vote at all) were themselves, in turn, quite deliberately betrayed. In short, that's the outcome that's so unpopular. Not that Brexit failed per se but that it has never yet been wholeheartedly and effectively implemented to begin with.

squirepraggerstope
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I don’t think we will rejoin but closer ties feels like our best option at the moment

tomspyro
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The people of Scotland voted not to leave the Union by a small majority and within a short time the S.N.P. politicians wanted another vote which if anything shows the self importance and self interest of ALL politicians . It is bad luck that the ex leader of the S.N.P. is accused of corruption, i say bad luck because ALL of the bloodsuckers could be accused of that ...now my love for politicians is showing through.

charlesfrancis
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We should never have left the EU in the first place. Aligning ourselves with America on Food Standards, and Environmental Laws will end up breaking the UK apart.

England and Scotland are poles apart - they both want a vastly different future. England wants to align with the US more, while Scotland is opposed to this and wants to align with the EU.

The two countries cannot agree on anything and are seemingly heading in opposite directions. Meaning the UK could break up within the next 10 to 15 years. It's that serious.

Brexit has been a huge divisive line going right through the middle of British society. It's literally split families in half; and ended previously strong friendships.

robtyman
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I do think that second referendum for something like this would be pretty bad if done right after. But I think something like say 8-10 years should be enough to run it again. It's roughly two terms for presidents and prime ministers, depending a bit on country. To me it would be pretty fair.
I mean it certainly makes no sense that you can decide something, but not revisit the same issue afterwards.

When it comes to terms of joining EU, those are overall non-negotiable. EU already has "tiers" of membership, kinda. And these terms are what every other country* has agreed to, so negotiation would be preferential treatment.

mukkaar
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Referendums do not change policy. It's not a vote. It's capacity Is to take the pulse of the nation. The outcome of the referendum was 52/48 % for brexit. So the UK was split down the middle. Also we were not told all the facts.

nickydaniels
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The EU is not a club, you can yoin as you wish. The UK would have to aplay for membership. This could take years.

martinaklee-webster
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I dont care but what i do care about is when politicians say before an election " We will NOT return to E.U. membership then when in power actually become members but with ready made excuses as to us not really being members, or in other words what i dislike are the continual LIES.

charlesfrancis
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The politics was sliced thick with this one.

garrygriggs