Nikon Z50 vs A6100 vs M6II

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[XCMRM]

Fuji. They are all in on apsc and providing you have no aspirations to go full frame they are probably the way to go.

[LordArioh]

EF-M lenses are damn perfect for travel. Where EF L glass with adapter or not is not gonna be as travel friendly anywhere else anyway. Tho for someone stepping into the game I'd recommend also to seriously consider Fuji. Their native (non adaptive) glass is the best out of all above.

[madphotographer]

There is no best when the specs are this close... the real question is.. what camera will get the BEST out of you with the skills you have. I prefer Nikon Z50 cause the ERGO's suit me and would inspire me to do more photography (I also own loads of DX lenses and don't mind the adapter). I look at that SONY box design, the confusing menus and that non centered EFV and I cringe. The Canon separate EVF is something I would hate. FUJI would be a good match for me as well.. But every fuck*r out there is different, and likes different things. As we all know, all cameras these days will take awesome images in the right hands. BUY whatever inspires you and makes your personal photography experience better..! Great VIDEO amigo. Enjoyed thoroughly!

[robwilliams]

Hope you enjoyed the holiday Dave! I am heavily invested in Sony (A7riii and A9) but I have pre-ordered the Z50 for a specific reason. I want to use the Nikon 300mm f4 pf lens as a lightweight travel telephoto on a mirrorless body. I had an A6400 but just don't like the APSC ergos and lack of second dial. This little Nikon really seems to tick my boxes. And the FTZ adapter opens up a whole world of very good, bargain lenses (eg. 70-300 AFP) and a wider third party range which Sony doesn't have at present. I believe that the FTZ performance is 'as native' but I haven't tested for myself. So Sony will remain my main tools but I think this Nikon will plug a few gaps.

[alnwill]

Canon's strategy is mysterious and interesting. They may have been testing the market with the M system. I bought an M50 and it is a very capable camera for the price. I bought an EOS-R which is fantastic for my requirements, but there is a price attached. The R requires wider diameter lenses that are fantastic, but heavy & bulky, but the native lenses for the M-series are much smaller, lighter, and cheaper. This creates a possible market for very capable lenses that are designed specifically for APS-C that are smaller, lighter, and cheaper. My go-to camera is an EOS 7DII with a Tamron 150-600 which is a fantastic combination for bird photography, but imagine an M-series with a 150-600 that is designed specifically for APS-C and the M-mount. This could be a whole lot smaller, lighter, and less expensive than my existing kit, so maybe Canon's idea is great. I always carry two cameras, full -frame for landscape and macro, and the APS-C for birds, and I seldom ever want to use the same lens on both bodies, so maybe Canon has a good idea having two incompatible mounts -they appeal to very different applications and budgets.

[princeding]

Nice talking about systems, literally the only YouTuber who has a very logical overview. Here are my opinions:

1. Nikon is new in the game but certainly has the best potential due to that "LARGE HOLE". There is lots of expansion work to do for the Z mount aps-c. No IBIS on the Z50 is a bummer for me though. Unbelievable. The future for this system is quite bright though. It finally depends on what Nikon would do. I wish they design some good fast aps-c lens to separate them from Sony & Canon.
2. Sony has the most complete system. If you seek potential upgrade to FF, it is the choice. However, their good lens are still expensive while the cheapo lens are crap. Meanwhile, I am really not a fan of Sony's UI. What do you mean a touch screen can only touch to re-focus??
3. Canon is the most narrow minded. EF-M is a stand alone system. Its design language is all about small size. If you want to use ultra small gimbal like the zhiyun crane m2, M system is the easiest mirrorless to go on. The number of native lens are limited (Come on Canon!). However, it is the only aps-c system which has speed booster (Viltrox EF-EOS M2). Literally, you can use those heavy FF glass onto this aps-c camera to make it a monster. It is a system which can be both ultra compact & simple or ultra bulky & complex. However, still, EF-M glasses are limited.

Believe in future? Nikon. Has a full frame? Sony. Want to play with the system? Canon

[EP-pgxs]

Really looking at the z50 for it's uncropped 4k as the canon m50 and lots other crop 4k and overall ergonomics size travel friendly etc.

[lifetimesofamultiplemediam]

If strongest means who will sell the most, then I reckon Canon. These little mirrorless cameras are like accessories in themselves to those already in their respective systems, therefore I don't think new users will have to sell their whole system in order to upgrade irrespective of which brand they buy. They can expand, by keeping both mirrorless and upgrade DSLR, because they serve different purposes. I have an Canon M50, and want to add the M6mk2 for a second body. I've found that for street photography, I hardly use the EVF. BTW my Canons don't stop recording after 30 mins; just splits the file.

[mack_solo]

I naively thought that Nikon and Canon would not introduce APS-C for the new mirrorless Z and R systems. I hoped that the new FF mirrorless would become like 35mm SLRs from the 60's - smaller feature packed bodies with maximum light sensitive area for the frame. Also APS_C makes the whole idea of getting larger diametre lens mounts somewhat redundant. Yeah you can pack more electronics into larger barrel but then by projecting light through smaller glass onto smaller chip makes it 1 step forward 2 steps back scenario... After EOS RP launch, one of Canon bosses stated sub-1000USD would arrive by the end of year. Now I guess this might be APS-C bodied R to counter Z50... or maybe they will slash the price of RP.
PS:
Your dog is an AWESOME companion ;)

[travisebastian]

Oh I'm so happy with EF-M system because the lenses are so small and light + cheap 🤩 And, no matter how much the image quality is superior, I would never upgrade to full frame system because they are too bulky and heavier and expensive, packed with unnecessary features 😅😅😅

[ericrueger]

It would be interesting to see a video directly comparing and pricing out a camera with lenses for several different rolls. Like apsc wedding, Architecture/relisteate, birds/wildlife, family/walk-around. Looking at equivalent ranged bodies and lenses, can you build out a kit with each of the companies and what does each come to in the end for price. That would be a larger difference in price and performance.

[EmotionalEducation]

Why do you always ignore Fuji? A better system than all of these!

[hughhuang]

Lovely dog, Dave - Just after you said I need to put you down then laid down in sofa with a sad face... LOL

[c.augustin]

I find the idea of an APS-C Z-Mount Nikon camera highly attractive (because, well, it's a Nikon after all, and the basic zoom lens is very compact), but the Z50 isn't enough for me – not enough of everything (the lens line-up will expand in due time, probably by Sigma and perhaps Tamron earlier than by Nikon themselves, but the body itself lacks many features that would make it an option). Sony, on the other hand, I find not that attractive (having an A7 and hating so much about it – except image quality), and the compact kit zoom lens for the A6000 series has very poor IQ (tested it, and found it to be abysmal). Hmm, too early to clearly see where things could go (at least for me).

[paololarocca]

nice overview, it’s a tricky situation for both manufacturers, who really need good visionary leaders in this transition moment, and for the customers....I don’t know who is in a better position but in general I see a great potential for small sensors, including future development in sensor technology probably we won’t need full these 3 cameras, a couple of things to mention: 1) Nikon and Canon are probably better for people with a left dominant eye; 2) Canon modular design may have the advantage of been able to replace the evf with a higher quality one in the

[MeAMuse]

The other thing about Canon EF lenses is they are designed to work using a separate AF chip and are not optimized at all for the way in which you focus on mirrorless. Personally, I am on the Sony bandwagon. Sold my Canon stuff almost 5 years ago and super happy with it (other than the shitty menu system). I definitely think most people buying APS-C should be picking up either Sony or Fuji.

[erica.kantchev]

The proper comparison should be M6-II WITH EVF against A6400 and Z50. Then Nikon has price advantage, and the lowest megapixel sensor to go with it. It is the lenses that distinguish between the 3 systems, not the bodies. And here Sony has a distinctive advantage, as you point out.

I am currently doing a 5-month trip in SE Asia bringing Sony A5100, Sony A6400, Sony 10-18 f/4, Sony 18-200 f/3.5-6.3, Sony Zeiss 24 f/1.8 and Sony 35 f/1.8. They fit nicely in a medium sized sling bag with assorted accessories like ND filters, wired remote, gorillapod, spare batteries and power bank and have space for 2 or 3 more prime lenses. I can create a similar - but in my opinion inferior - set with Canon but not Nikon (excluding adapted DSLR lenses as those defeat the purpose), including a future expansion with Samyang 8 mm fisheye and Sigma 16 mm and 56 mm f/1.4 lenses. However, only Sony does offer an alternative native option (two of them in fact - SEL 50 mm OSS and Zeiss 55 mm, both f/1.8) for the 56 mm lens.

One other thing that is often overlooked: with mirror-free ILCs, you should not sell your APS-C lenses when you go full frame if you are into video, because 4k video often is done in various crops from the full 36 x 24 sensor. Sony's APS-C lenses are very good for video as well.

[rich]

Thanks for the comparation! Fuji seems like a fringe solution for those who know that they want to invest big dollars into a very proprietary system, mount and sensor and all. Canon M50 is best for a low entry solution that has to be considered a throwaway as there is no upgrade path. The M6 ii is silly with the add-on EVF, but only slightly more silly thn Nikon's Z50's slow lenses and flip down screen. These companies have to be suffering from a not well understood death wish. Sony wins by default because of the lower cost lenses from third parties as well as an upgrade path, but the camera doesn't feel like a camera but rather like a Windows 8 computer so at the end the only system that makes sense is the Moto 6 for $150 that takes excellent photos and there is no worries about wasting money.

[TVe]

A lot of youtubers tell us that if we maybe might upgrade to ff sometimes in the future, buy full frame lenses. That's a good advice for primes but not for zooms. A Tamron 28-75 ends up as 42 - 112 on APS-C (stupid). Tamron 17-28 ends up as 28-42, extremely unversatile.
But I plan to buy Tamron 70-180 and use it on my a6500.

[barkan]

M-50 is the best overall mirrorless camera. Now let's pray for M-50 mark ii without loosing any feature from the original!!