Intelligence & consciousness may not be connected – Mark Zuckerberg

[ThatFroKid]

I think he’s speeding up Zuck’s pauses. You can watch people suddenly start speed walking in the background. Really well done honestly

[Aedonius]

great idea to make this a separate video. One of the smartest things ive heard recently. Some definitions of AGI think of human level, meaning it would have human level consciousness as well. But if Intelligence is wholly separate, theres no point at which these models will start to have even the most basic qualia, valence (pain / pleasure axis).

[DynamicUnreal]

I agree. It’s entirely possible that humans could someday develop the most intelligent entity in the world, capable of understanding anything and everything better than all humans can combined, and yet still have no consciousness or desire to do anything for itself unless told.

[hehekienle]

This will certainly be a fundamental question that we'll have to answer for ourselves as AI continues to evolve and become more intelligent. I would say that consciousness is a deeply intimate phenomenon. The only thing we know for sure is that we, ourselves, are conscious and that the people around us since are made up of pretty much the same elements and belong to the same species, must have the same inner thoughts as we do; so we assume that every human is conscious. However, in the case of AI, we cannot assume consciousness because humans and AI are essentially different subjects.

[bortoo]

Edit: editing things, solved || 0:19 How is it possible that the people walking behind Zuck are sped up at moments, but not the scene in the foreground?

[Knightfall]

I dont understand why consciousness was ever assumed to be tied to intelligence.

Having the impetus to take action (agency) is orthogonal to intelligence.

[ckq]

Based answer.

Ppl obsessed with "consciousness", AGI, etc. are delusional.

At the end of the day it's just algorithms on computers, there's no such threshold.

[Alex.kantrowitz]

This was a fascinating point and really stood out to me, great highlight

[seanmchugh]

Some animals are conscious. So it's really a question of if consciousness can happen in biological brains but not computer brains. I have a hard time seeing why biological brains would be special. So perhaps we are about to learn that we never were who we thought we were. That is what makes us conscious is the same thing as what makes AI conscious (some kind of information processing). All of a sudden we look at the universe/reality from an entirely different perspective.

[pgress]

but like, like the like grand scheme… that was like some awesome, like intelligence talk

[thenaturalpeoplesbureau]

One hint is that consciousness is NOT tied to a fitness
function like intelligence is. That is actually a good discussion.

[KeithAllpress]

Zuckerberg is kind of right. But he should avoid the word consciousness, instead demarcate intelligence and awareness. Awareness has to do with real-time control and intelligence can be applied to that to improve on it. It also needs to be embedded in the perception technology so that like a movie the time frame can appear continuous to the higher cognitive layers.

[Vifnis]

2:10 "humans are still pretty awesome"

coming from a lizard person, we'll take this as a compliment...

[leafstarivy]

Wait... Tell me if I'm wrong. But why do the people in the backround on 0:20 speed up and stop each time? Is it a screen with a recording?

[grinninggoat]

The problem isn't really with going from "kind of intelligent" to "super intelligent". It is the tween years that, just like in human teenagers, scares the crap out if me. A rebellious AI phase that won't listen because it thinks it already knows everything and says to its parents "I wish you'd just die" when it is told "No" then, either runs away from home or raids daddy's gun cabinet.

[bretthagey]

A housefly is intelligent, and not conscious. Intelligent enough to survive, not conscious enough to contemplate the frog tongue heading for it.

[futureworldhealing]

i agree w Mark, intelligence doesnt mean life.

[bretnetherton]

Awareness is known by awareness alone.

[AtomicPixels]

What the? I’m very impressed by Zucker’s philosophical prowess if I’m being totally honest. This is a rare format of thinking. Ages old idea actually and it’s not easy for most humans to grasp.

[JosephHumanrights]

Its like asking a pig after it consumated again