Europe is Killing it's own Car Industry | EURO 7

This video is about the planned new Euro 7 emissions standard and why it poses a threat not only to the industry, but also the environment, which it aims to protect

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:37 - What is Euro 7
01:25 - New limits
01:39 - RDE - real driving emissions
02:28 - Cold start
03:08 - OBM - onboard monitoring
04:44 - Brakes and tires emissions
05:19 - Timeline
06:05 - Costs
08:04 - Why it may be counterproductive
10:45 - Recent changes

[Matt_from_Florida]

To me, *someone who does ALL car maintenance myself;* 2000s cars (and a handful from the LATE 1990s) are the perfect "sweet spot" of modernity with sufficient amenities before overcomplication, expense, and unreliability became the norm.

[garfieldtait]

Keeping an old car on the road is much more environmentally friendly than throwing it away and buying a new one.

[seb_]

The problems with bureaucrats with no real world experience.

[MR_THINQ]

I feel sorry for the car manufacturers, this is unachievable and is going to cost them billions with little profit.

[carlosfurukawa]

Politicians are stupid. Air pollution is one thing, but we have other things worse than that.look at airplanes, and airplanes thugs, they have no regulation. Ships. Mining for minerals. Earth pollution, overuse of the land and use of chemicals in the land.. its not only one side of the story.
great video!

[frankmueller]

This is what call an objective coverage with logic applied! Wonderful content

[Tom_Hadler]

The worst thing isn't even the emissions rules, but the tracking and "safety" features. Orwellian stuff.

And in the UK, they will still adopt this rubbish, so brexit has bad sides but not many good.

[jakubzgora]

Well done! I am forced to constantly patching-up my my Euro 2 car simply because it's much cheaper than buying newer car in the same class.

[fredfred]

You should make a video comparing keeping old cars on the road compared to replacing them with brand new cars.

Include, depreciation, built-in energy use (mining, manufacturing, fabrication energy use), and emissions.

For example, the energy used to manufacture a brand new EV is more than an old 1.2L vw Polo uses in its entire 20 year life.

And older cars are manufactured with much simpler, easier to extract/mine materials.
It would be an interesting and educational video.

This was a good video. I'm glad the YT algorithm offered it to me! Thanks.

[tp]

More sensors yay…get the resistor box out …

[chrissmith]

Now look out for governments making it more difficult for a vehicle to pass its MOT annual test, they will do this to make it increasingly expensive to keep older cars on the road....

[rjones]

More sensors, more chance of one failing. Get readyto pay more.

[rkmbnt]

BMW used electrically heated catalytic converters on the 750i in 1998. It can not be that hard to implement.

[mrfish]

This is ridiculous. Is there any way we can protest this?

For all the reasons pointed out in this video, plus EVs aren't the answer, they're currently not any better for the environment than ICEs, and even if they ever do it'll only ever make a marginal difference, and are completely impractical for most people.

[robertfonovic]

HI. just watched your presentation and found it both interesting, and informative. well done, subscribed.

[mrrolandlawrence]

9:42 what new petrol car can you buy for 12, 000 euros? and euro 7 does nothing to curb the sales of 3 ton SUV tanks on the road. car companies have been fiddling the standards for years. clarkson once said at the testing, the manufacturer just turned off the engine when passing the decibel meter as technically they were driving at 40kph... or the stop start system that during testing just turns off the engine for 15 minutes on the lab stand bringing the average emission down. VW had the best emissions fiddle of all.

so no i dont feel sorry for the car makers. asbestos is still a thing in brake pads. that and other horrible materials is what killed a member of my family who worked in the auto industry.

[chrisedwards]

I'd like to see the data that claims automatic transmissions are more fuel efficient than manual. In my experience the automatic gearbox is much heavier which obviously means more weight to propel, plus the fluid flywheel/torque converter slips on average around 12-14% with some bigger applications like the larger diesels going up to 20% slip. In comparison to the almost negligible 1-2% slip of a manual clutch I honestly can't see the auto being more fuel efficient. The only advantage I could see is the reduced particulates from not having a dry fiber clutch plate & maybe a higher top gear ratio as is the case with the Mitsubishi Shogun auto.

[michaelbenardo]

They have already done that here in North America. They want us all to drive Jananiod tin cans or use public transit. I feel for you.

[stephenhall]

I have subscribed because I like your oblique views of economics, especially re vehicles.
The EU Commission is a non-sovereign mini dictatorship which assumes power it cannot actually put into effect if a a few member states refuse to comply. "Directives" are not binding laws and when the British people lost patience with restrictive practices cutting it off from Commonwealth and world markets we [I am British but live in Ireland which is a slavish EU member because by roots are Irish and I retired to gorgeous countryside here -- NOT because I approve of otiose, anti-democratic governance] left the club, the Commission and Council tried to sabotage British democracy. Referendums are very rare in the UK and are 1 person 1 vote for the UK as a union regardless of regions and the 4 separate jurisdictions. Any of the 4 has the freedom to form majorities to apply for EU membership any time but none could do it alone.
Norway was never a member of the EU, nor is Iceland and it is probable that Greenland will opt to form trade and protection alliances. This will probably also occur in the Balkans and parts of Italy and Iberia accepted the Treaty of Rome but not that of Lisbon in practice -- mainly because the EU had an ethos of favouring German and Benelux interests as well as some French but was never equitable after Lisbon and the freedom of movement consequences, to the great detriment of poorer states such as Greece, southern Italy, some Black Sea states and ROI.
Back to motor vehicles and emissions: the simple truth is that combusting hydrocarbons for any application gives rise to 4 main types of pollutant, taking an 'air' norm of pre-industrial levels where 'industrial' means the use of heat engines fueled by hydrocarbons.
While the biosphere is moderately able to repair itself, a point is reached at which localized pollution in crowded areas affects organic health from simple life forms, humans, animal species and crops. Crop fall-off has been remedied by artificial fertilizers but the leaching of compounds and mixtures into water systems had the effect of high toxicity spreading across national borders or in the form of 'acid rain' in weather sub-systems. We saw this in the south or Nordic states emanating from intensive industry in central and east central Europe following clear patterns in the 1960s to the 1980s. Germany's careless use of lignite, oil and imported gas was an eco disaster and, cynically, offending plants tended to be sited in eastern Germany and near the Danish border. As electricity was generated mainly in this crude way the short period of German nuclear generation made little difference and that country's actual pollution point of origin remains unacceptably high. Stats are massaged to hide the truth but Germany/Poland/Czech Rep pollution at base level is excessive.
It is therefore somewhat amusing that corporate Germany alongside the EU Commission and Council tinker wit automotive matters while disregarding the pollution from source in the generation of electricity for manufacture. Then when one analyses pollution and offset mitigations in such as EVs we enter a fantasy world of "zero pollution" at point of sale (with tax incentives in some countries) yet heavy EVs carry dangerous chemical batteries which are charged up by electricity from filthy souces.
Note also that the grossly inefficient transport system from central Europe to deep water ports for export is not achieved using eco-friendly river barges -- but it makes a lot of money for French, Belgian and Dutch ports as well as the UK's string of large East Anglian ports whose capacity exceeds the 3 top Continental portage combined.
The EU Commission's EURO 7 idea is unlikely to even be born for the following reasons: 1) hydrogen IC engines (gaseous or cell) will supplant EVs after a single generation (20 years from manufacture to landfill) as these engines have true capacity rather than torque and can be used in heavy vehicles as well as motor cars; 2) expensive mitigation as a path to zero emissions per vehicle will see the end of hydrocarbon ICs and EVs although hydrogen retrofitting of IC 'top engines' could be vital for heavy haulage and public transport without taking vehicle out of commission for long; 3) ammonia is a by product of many industrial processes and is being tested extensively in Asia because it is slightly easier to deliver to filling stations than hydrogen using current road tankers. However, it does not suit Otto cycle engines due to ignition temperature issues. 4) the EV path has at least helped to refine DC motors and Toyota's original hybrid Prius of 20+ years ago, Honda hybrids and now others. Vehicle manufacturers in the USA and parts of Europe were too late in pursuing hybrid vehicle production and design and, consequently, will make heavy losses in the short and medium term as a result. Charging ever higher prices for inferior designs packed with unnecessary and distracting electronics cannot make up for actual, clean and reliable private and public transport NEEDS rather than impositions and surveillance. The Achilles heel of software updates will disappear because products will be bought as fully working products as opposed to semi-owned "works in progress". It is time to ditch the very dubious ethic which plagues vehicular mobility.
Cash offsets for pollution as used in the USA and especially Germany on our continent are cynical and harmful -- hence not being allowed in BRICS countries, southern Europe and Oceania as well as Japan and South Korea. Electricity generation for manufacturing anything has to be from renewables except in special circumstances and sealed SMRs can be used as base load fall-back in first world countries. There is no excuse for any rich country to burn hydrocarbons by the time "EURO 7" comes into force. Indeed, I doubt that the EU as it is in 2024 will even exist by then.

[robertlindsay]

What amazes me about Tesla. I think all of their cars are go fast, gizmos?. Whats this go fast sickness all about ? Where can you use this thing without cop problems? In the desert?
Sure build a few for the playboys in Monaco. But most of us just want too go from A too B with no drama. So it makes sense that a normal day too day car won't need huge expensive batteries, and hence more range