This Old Effect Was A Nightmare | Weird Yu-Gi-Oh! Effects 5

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[Dzeeff]

Some viewers have pointed out that Wall of Illusion does need to say the damage it calculated normally. I understand why someone might think that, but I believe the newer text is clearer on how it works :)

Also: I guess Toon Mermaid has a Speed Duel printing and it no longer has the sentence about tributing. This errata wasn't listed on the Wiki so I didn't include it in the video, but I'm happy to see they updated the text to be less weird

[ShapelessMonstrosity]

For Wall of Illusion, the "Any damage resulting from the attack is calculated normally" was important. That clarifies that the effect is applied after damage calculation, not before.

[TheRicardobtc]

All the issues with Toon monsters' rules would be solved if they were simply put into Toon World instead. Then they could focus solely on the individual Toon's effects rather than having to explain every single one of them.

[GdotWdot]

The second printing of Toon Mermaid is exactly like how people who don't play Yu-Gi-Oh!, but are into card games, think all the card text in this game reads.

[WarioMCP]

Each of those Toon Mermaids are different monsters. That's why their effects are all different. They even have different hair colors, duh.

[_MIN]

The weirdest part about 7 Completed is that it has itself in its own card art, but the depiction of itself in the art has different art than itself 🤯

[InvaderWeezle]

I"m guessing that the whole "but Tributes are required for monsters Level 5 or more" was added so that Cost Down could work on them, since Pegasus uses Cost Down to summon his Toons with one less tribute in the Pyramid of Light movie. That doesn't work anymore though since recent erratas have made it a fixed number of tributes required for the old school Toons.

[potatoheadpokemario]

2:40 I mean without the damage is still calculated it can still mean you don't take damage if you don't know the rules, the new text specifies it's returned after damage calculation

[Kylora]

Toon Mermaid has that "tributes are required" clause exists because Level Conversion Lab exists (can potentially make Toon Mermaid level 5 or 6).

[NinStarRune]

Disagree with the first one. From an MtG standpoint, it sounds like, if only the first line of text existed, it would bounce the attacking creature back before damage is calculated (considering that it uses "attacking, " implying that the attack hasn't "gone through" yet.) The second line isn't redundant in this case as it moves timing from pre-calculation to post-calculation.

[hoangminhle]

I think we can have a dedicated episode for Toons
It's fitting.
Also where is my Yado Karu showcase: "in any position *you desire* "

[pretendsknow]

The reason that Toons had that level sentence is because they want them to follow tribute summoning rules as seen in the Pyramid of Light Movie.

[NevanSlone]

Seeing the Toon Mermaid made me want “Shinny” forms of Yugioh cards lol

[aurafox]

I actually kind if appreciate the old text in most of these cases. Sure. It's a bit weird when you're used to all this information being commonplace, but back in the day with good ol schoolyard duels, this kind of card text really helped prevent a lot of arguments regarding to the rules. In fact, I think they only did away with the redundant explanations because of the limited space on the cards and the increase in complexity of card effects in general.

[pkmnman]

Why do we still need to put the rules for entire card types on the card? Like, why aren't the mechanics for Toon, Gemini, and Union monsters just described in the rulebook. I mean, yeah, there's kind of a lot when it comes to Toons, but the other two don't really need their mechanics explained on every single card.

[timaeus]

Imagine if Creature Swap was ever re-printed to call it Monster Swap...

[UltimaKeyMaster]

Me: Modern Yu-Gi-Oh is nothing but text walls.
Toon Monsters: Allow us to introduce ourselves.

[spaceperson]

It feels weird to me that they need to specify things like Toon and Spirit effects, since they appear on the type tag of the monsters in the first place. It feels like they could (and really should) just make the shared effects of Toon monsters and Spirit monsters part of the basic rulings to save on text space. It would require ruling knowledge to use these monsters, but the Toons at least desperately need something like this, I feel.

[xatuyou]

I guess if toon mermaid has its level changed in your hand, you have to tribute for it.

[broitsu]

I think the Toon tribute text is a form of future-proofing. We've seen cards like Cost Down and A Legendary Ocean able to reduce the levels of monsters in the hand, so if the Toon mechanic requires tributes for level 5 and higher monsters, it stands to reason that a card in the future COULD increase the levels of cards in the hand. Like you said, that'll probably never come up, but Toon Dark Magician Girl actually received an errata that completely nullifies this loophole. Recent printings have no mention of level, but instead just require 1 tribute. This means that you can no longer use cards like Cost Down to get Toon DMG on the field without a tribute. Again, this is something that will probably never come up, but it still is technically a functional change to the card.