The Sanlida Saga: What We Need To Learn

A commentary on the lessons we should be learning from the Sanlida controversy involving stealing content and deceiving their influencers and affiliates.

Jake Kaminski:

00:00 - Introduction
01:17 - The Archery Market
03:15 - Archery Influencers
06:55 - Stolen Content
09:57 - Cultural Divide
12:24 - Reputation Damage
13:44 - Message to Sanlida

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[kjodwex]

I, as a very newcomer to archery, am very grateful to you and to Jake Kaminski for all I have learned from both your channels.
You deserve a lot more respect than you have been shown by Sanlida and they should be shown up for what they have done.
Thank you for your great videos.

[chrisingram]

I'm glad you brought up the cultural divide differences, earlier during the Chinese New Year when all the businesses in China close up shop, there were people wondering where their Amazon welders were and figured it was a scam. It did not occur to to management in China to mention "no shipping" during the holidays.

[marcoengelbracht]

Too sad, I was about to try out their products. I will not support a company stealing from my preferred content creators, period!

[ArthurNagae]

Just leaving a comment so the algorithm knows this is an important message, also great didatics!

[skeezixcodejedi]

Very well said; I don't recall what you were going through in 2020, beyond what we were all going through; glad you've made it through! Always good fun interesting and honest content.

[AutisticArcher]

As coach, I recommended Sanlida as first bow, but not anymore.
Exit Sanlida, hello Kinetic

[aussiepatriotprepper]

I'm pretty new to archery and my first bow is a Sanlida recurve takedown 32pounder, i bought it because of your review on the Sanlida bows and now I'm also gonna boycott the Sanlida brand because of what you have gone through, keep up the good work i always look forward to your reviews and remember that you have friends out here who support your endeavours cause we have a passion for archery 😊

[TheCog]

Strength and Fortitude to you David. Thanks for providing a balanced insight into the situation. Haven't purchased a Chinese bow, and will not.

[cavetroll]

I think this was very well said by Nu. I bought my lot on tge strength of both Jake and Nu's reviews and i wish I could afford to replace them after this. Especially as im working towards becoming pro and doing a South African channel that's similar. They have broken trust and nothing less than a full public formal apology as well as removing the offending content would be a good start to establishing integrity in the sport

[stepsbeyondtheeventhorizon]

Jake has been such a wholesume and valuable influence on me in my recurve journey. He feels offended and violated for a good reason. Sanlida should've done better. Disappointing. I was considering purchasing one of their most expensive plungers, but now I'm not. In fact, I don't think I'll purchase anything from them until I see a public apology, which is highly unlikely.

[goaway]

A bump for the algorithm I'm an old grandpa you have really helped me out and are enjoyable

[WildlifeKit]

Good one mate - FO is sometimes needed for people to get the message

[solonys]

Speaking of potential theft, Southwest is advertising the Scorpion Longbow on their site with your image, as well; dunno if you gave them permission, but they are doing it.

[AtlyswithaY-tviz]

Bought the Sanlida Dragon X8 in September and I am now learning about this controversy.

[annag]

Excellent video. Thoughtful, calm reasoned, intelligent argument and information. With the added bonus of "Fuck off". Made me a proud Australian lol. You and Armin Hirmer were the very first people I discovered on here when I started archery during lockdown. While I loathe the term "influencer" as usually those people are fuckwits with anything but knowledge, you and Hirmer excel at archery and have so much knowledge and no bullshit. I have relied on content-makers here for information, Hirmer more as he is Asiatic archer but still there is so much knowledge being shared for our benefit. (I wrote down your technique checklist and keep it with me when shooting) I am very grateful for it. Hirmer played a part in my choice of first bow. That is why this all pisses me off.
Most recurve people at my club follow Jake Kaminski, with our club prez an avid fan. Recurve ppl lurve the tech talk (I am way to thick lol) It is actually real influence from knowledge and experience, so how dare Sanlida do this. I don't think it is a cultural thing, it is more of a fuck-you thing. It's exploitative and entitled. And opportunistic. I was hoping there would be a legal consequence as nothing seems to smack a point home like a big fat lawsuit but I do get the juggernaut nightmare legal labyrinth thing. I think they know that too. So hopefully Kaminski's reputation and influence will help jolt things into place. Looks like a big fat mess.
I had only recently heard of Sanlida and will now not be looking further. There are other options from China so it is pretty stupid of them. Respect and asking permission is that hard.
PS NUSensei when are you gonna come and visit us at BHCA. 😊 I know it is the other side of the city but would be cool. We have all types of archers and very chill atmosphere :D

[Kor]

My heart goes out to you for the difficulty that was induced by the lockdown. Glad we all made it thru. ❤

[rolldysharpshooter]

Why was Leoleo archery banned by WA, when Sanlida was accepted enough to be a sponsor? I really don't understand if it's not WA admins bending over backward for money.

[puristconstruction]

You the man Nu sensei! Well articulated and very fair

[davenghiem]

Strange, I never heard of Sanlida, and just two days ago, some videos on Sanlida popped up on my feed. And then Nusensei comes out with this. I never considered Sanlida, and looks like I never will. I'll stick with Hoyt, Samick, and Southwest.

[adamgill]

Jake's call out was for archers, not the whole planet, and he wants this redressed, tried to redress it and got stone walled. How would you like it if a colleague took a small portion of your pay cheque every month because you told people you liked their work? It's THAT ridiculous! I don't agree with cancel culture but a temporary boycott sends a strong message and gets corporations to listen. I think this is very reasonable and something I hope Sanlida pay attention to.