PvP Rewards Are Still Too Hard To Get In Dragonflight, Data Shows

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[WoWDontu]

No reason to push when you hit a wall of Glads in every lobby at 1600

[OverlordMoon]

Blizzard seems to have a really difficult time finding a balance between "difficult" and "realistically obtainable". It's not that people 'don't want to work for achievements/rewards', it's that a lot of players aren't going to put in the effort if they already know from the beginning that there's no chance of them getting the rewards they're after.

The majority of the player base falls between the 25-34 age bracket, meaning most of them have full time jobs, families, other obligations, etc. Most people can't physically degen for 16 hours a day to try to be the top 1%, and so as a result they just don't queue on ladder. Blizz needs to revamp their system entirely to cut the gatekeeping garbage from PvP (deflation until late season) and to revamp the reward structure overall to make playing PvP worth it for the average joe.

[jonathanmason]

I swear a large portion of the ladder are just people on their alts. I want the number of unique players in pvp.

[kinell]

Stopped at 1800, not worth the time and energy to go higher.

[draincatYT]

Yeah I came back to retail because everyone was saying "pvp gearing is the easiest it's ever been in 10.2." And alas have to figure out how to get consumables, how to craft gear, how to turn it into tier gear, what the difference between world pvp rewards vs conquest vendor rewards vs honor rewards vs crafting and conversion gear with 0 indication or explanation in-game.

That's all before the majority of these issues you mentioned even happen.

[StrobeFireStudios]

Yeah, same here. I get 1930 ish rating and then face healers that I have absolutely no chance of even getting 3/3 with. So I drop to 1800, start going 5/1 or 4/2, then get back to 1900 and just get absolutely smeshed by Disc priests. (Resto Shaman here)

I've also never been a Gladiator and never gotten anything higher than 2000 rating. I'm just your average gamer dad with a 3 year old daughter with a wife and a house and a job. I'd like to get higher, I just literally can't do it.

[arzitic]

HUGE problem with carry over mmr in shuffle that I never see talked about.. I had a p evoker at 2100 season 1. I queued on it last week first time since season 1 wearing all greens and I’m thrust into a new 2100 lobby where everyone is fully geared and I have zero chance… feels so bad trying to get alts geared up under these circumstances

[timothyh]

Just add the glad mount to 2s, 3s and shuffle and stop listening to the .01% of streamers who play 12 hours a day that gatekeep 2400 with 10 alts of the same class.

[alexcyw]

Still no gladiator mount achievement in solo shuffle. Still no rated solo que bg.

[TarmahoGaming]

Guils wars 2 has a system that makes a progression pass that you work on slowly to gain cosmetics, resources, and legendary rewards. i feel a similar thing could give benefit to warcrafts PvP brackets

[Fotumain]

The main issue with PvP is participation. The gear is pointless for PvE players to get (the vast majority of the player base). As long as PvP gear is not competitive with raid/key gear, you will see record low participation.

[winring]

Yup I was looking at this the other day after feeling like I was still hitting a wall around 21-2200 when I am normally 2400+, they haven’t done nearly enough with inflation. Pretty disappointing

[rodrigofreitas]

They need to let people have fun. Capping MMR with no explanation all season, no rewards for SS outside of a title, no new bg maps, no rated bgs rewards outside of a title as well. They literally just need to add glad mounts and other mounts for different brackets, even if it is recolor. Once people get to 2k in RBGS they get a weapon illusion or a mount, same with 2x2 and 3x3. They should have bracket specific mounts and weapon and gear tmogs. Let people play and have fun climb, Who cares if top players (best in the world) are 3500 rating, they will always be the highest. Let the average joe be able to climb to 2400, let us have a chance

[WorlviusYT]

It's actually funny to think about, that 3s is the only bracket that rewards the Gladiator mount, yet it's the least played bracket. And by a lot. Both 2s and SS pretty much doubles the participation of 3s.

[fugeki]

I've played wow for 14 years but got into PvP really in mid-Legion. I've been playing with the same friend since then and we never were able to find a reliable 3rd person to push with. We've both been wanting to be gladiators at least once, but never managed to get it yet. I don't know if we'll ever be able to get it, but I thought it would be nice to get the "legend" title in Solo Shuffle as kind of a consolation prize. However, when I saw that it has to be something like 100wins above 2.4k, and looking at the current ratings for Solo Shuffle, I'm feeling like I probably won't even get this either.

Also, I wish you could get gladiator rewards from 2s, that way my friend and I would be able to get them without having to go through LFG to find a 3rd person like we've been trying to do for years. I feels very shitty that you can only get the gladiator title and mount in 3s, and not even in shuffle either.

It's all very discouraging

[FonFreeze]

Retail PvP is for players with 10 + years exp. After few games have to fight gladiators or their alts.

[ogChaaka]

I stuggle to gear up then the season is over and everything resets. 😢

[lafraiseauboisdormant]

“Xbox lays off 1, 900 employees, the majority at Activision Blizzard!” ... a new era begins

[Chris-dtru]

I've given up on trying, im peak 1900, its a weird wall i have hit on 4 different classes and thats fine. Im just really looking forward to watching AWC in 10 days!

[ufade]

Worse thing to ever happen to the game was arena. Right next to gearscore.