The Ultimate Guide to Lands | The Command Zone 455 | Magic: The Gathering Commander EDH

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Show Notes:

You can’t play Commander without lands; they make up more than a third of your deck! But for such an important resource, lands aren’t discussed nearly as much as the rest of deckbuilding. This episode, JLK is joined by Jordan Pridgen to bring you The Ultimate Guide To Lands! We’ll discuss how many mana sources you should be running, how to evaluate utility and tap lands, how to think about hybrid cards like MDFCs or channel lands, and more! You won’t wanna miss it!

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[sosukelele]

6:32 How many lands should you run?
14:06 Evaluating variance
14:59 Land counts - factors to consider
21:39 Common mistake #1: too few lands
22:41 Common mistake #2: cutting lands over time
26:13 Counting lands that don't (always) make mana
27:45 How to determine color spread
29:12 Color spread - factors to consider

[Ryne]

Josh: Does an episode on lands
Jimmy: Nowhere to be seen

[KevinCockerline]

I didn’t watch it yet, but just from the title; really happy that the command zone has been putting out more unique content and less set related stuff. I feel like a lot of people asked for this and the command zone team really came through. Looking forward to listening

[jesusfernandezgarcia]

I'm from Spain, not a native English speaker.
I LOVE how understandable and handy these podcasts are.
There's no other channel like this, whose games, podcasts and productions are as well made as yours.
Thanks for a really good job on your work.

[danacoleman]

I always just run 99 lands. I only consider it a win when my commander has an amazingly beautiful and varied panoramic landscape within which to exist!

[privettk]

In my early decks I tried to math out the color spread like you mention and so often I'd be screwed out of the smaller color that I needed to cast my commander. Since then I've run equal spread on all colors and that has worked surprisingly well

[smokin]

22:00 “nobody has ever said this mountain is gonna take you down!!”

*Omnath, locus of rage has entered the chat*

[pixelbomb]

Josh: You should probably have only 3 to 4 tapped lands in your deck.

Me, who's trying to build a 5 color deck for under $300: I have twelve 🙃

[jaredg]

I do feel Pathways are under-rated. It's like drawing a 2 color basic and picking what you need. Doesn't entered tapped and better than pulling a bounce land depending on your color needs. I've been the one to need 1 more mana and having to bounce.

[cteal]

As far as color distribution, I go one step further than counting color of spells, I like to count the number of colored mana pips of all my spells...this way multicolored spells and spells with 2 or 3 of the same are given their proper weight

[Debatra.]

Another thing to keep in mind is how your Commander affects your mana. If it does something like search out lands or give you treasures, you might be able to work with a few less lands that you would need to draw.

[mtgsus]

22:06 Don't scoff at mountains. They win games
- Valakut, the molten pinacle

[bulbasaurappreciator]

You all have been slaying it with these intros to your podcasts recently! I expect the high production value for Game Knights but just the 20-30 seconds at the beginning here was really cool.

[Uriel]

For those interested: This is the probability to have exactly 3 or exactly 4 lands after 0/1/2/3 mulligans depending on the amount of lands in your deck.

0 1 2 3
4 0, 09% 0, 17% 0, 26% 0, 35%
5 0, 21% 0, 42% 0, 63% 0, 83%
6 0, 41% 0, 81% 1, 21% 1, 61%
7 0, 69% 1, 37% 2, 05% 2, 72%
8 1, 06% 2, 11% 3, 15% 4, 18%
9 1, 54% 3, 06% 4, 55% 6, 02%
10 2, 13% 4, 21% 6, 25% 8, 25%
11 2, 83% 5, 58% 8, 25% 10, 84%
12 3, 64% 7, 15% 10, 53% 13, 79%
13 4, 57% 8, 93% 13, 10% 17, 07%
14 5, 61% 10, 91% 15, 92% 20, 64%
15 6, 77% 13, 08% 18, 97% 24, 45%
16 8, 04% 15, 43% 22, 22% 28, 47%
17 9, 41% 17, 93% 25, 64% 32, 64%
18 10, 87% 20, 56% 29, 20% 36, 90%
19 12, 43% 23, 32% 32, 86% 41, 20%
20 14, 08% 26, 18% 36, 57% 45, 50%
21 15, 80% 29, 11% 40, 31% 49, 74%
22 17, 59% 32, 09% 44, 04% 53, 88%
23 19, 44% 35, 11% 47, 73% 57, 89%
24 21, 34% 38, 13% 51, 34% 61, 73%
25 23, 29% 41, 15% 54, 85% 65, 36%
26 25, 26% 44, 13% 58, 24% 68, 79%
27 27, 24% 47, 07% 61, 49% 71, 98%
28 29, 24% 49, 93% 64, 57% 74, 93%
29 31, 24% 52, 72% 67, 49% 77, 64%
30 33, 22% 55, 41% 70, 22% 80, 11%
31 35, 18% 57, 99% 72, 77% 82, 35%
32 37, 11% 60, 45% 75, 12% 84, 36%
33 38, 99% 62, 78% 77, 29% 86, 15%
34 40, 82% 64, 98% 79, 28% 87, 74%
35 42, 59% 67, 04% 81, 08% 89, 14%
36 44, 28% 68, 95% 82, 70% 90, 36%
37 45, 89% 70, 73% 84, 16% 91, 43%
38 47, 42% 72, 35% 85, 46% 92, 35%
39 48, 84% 73, 83% 86, 61% 93, 15%
40 50, 16% 75, 16% 87, 62% 93, 83%
41 51, 37% 76, 35% 88, 50% 94, 41%
42 52, 46% 77, 40% 89, 26% 94, 89%
43 53, 43% 78, 31% 89, 90% 95, 30%
44 54, 26% 79, 08% 90, 43% 95, 62%
45 54, 97% 79, 72% 90, 87% 95, 89%
46 55, 54% 80, 23% 91, 21% 96, 09%
47 55, 97% 80, 61% 91, 46% 96, 24%
48 56, 25% 80, 86% 91, 63% 96, 34%
49 56, 40% 80, 99% 91, 71% 96, 39%
50 56, 40% 80, 99% 91, 71% 96, 39%
51 56, 25% 80, 86% 91, 63% 96, 34%
52 55, 97% 80, 61% 91, 46% 96, 24%
53 55, 54% 80, 23% 91, 21% 96, 09%
54 54, 97% 79, 72% 90, 87% 95, 89%
55 54, 26% 79, 08% 90, 43% 95, 62%
56 53, 43% 78, 31% 89, 90% 95, 30%
57 52, 46% 77, 40% 89, 26% 94, 89%
58 51, 37% 76, 35% 88, 50% 94, 41%
59 50, 16% 75, 16% 87, 62% 93, 83%
60 48, 84% 73, 83% 86, 61% 93, 15%
61 47, 42% 72, 35% 85, 46% 92, 35%
62 45, 89% 70, 73% 84, 16% 91, 43%
63 44, 28% 68, 95% 82, 70% 90, 36%
64 42, 59% 67, 04% 81, 08% 89, 14%
65 40, 82% 64, 98% 79, 28% 87, 74%
66 38, 99% 62, 78% 77, 29% 86, 15%
67 37, 11% 60, 45% 75, 12% 84, 36%
68 35, 18% 57, 99% 72, 77% 82, 35%
69 33, 22% 55, 41% 70, 22% 80, 11%
70 31, 24% 52, 72% 67, 49% 77, 64%
71 29, 24% 49, 93% 64, 57% 74, 93%
72 27, 24% 47, 07% 61, 49% 71, 98%
73 25, 26% 44, 13% 58, 24% 68, 79%
74 23, 29% 41, 15% 54, 85% 65, 36%
75 21, 34% 38, 13% 51, 34% 61, 73%
76 19, 44% 35, 11% 47, 73% 57, 89%
77 17, 59% 32, 09% 44, 04% 53, 88%
78 15, 80% 29, 11% 40, 31% 49, 74%
79 14, 08% 26, 18% 36, 57% 45, 50%
80 12, 43% 23, 32% 32, 86% 41, 20%
81 10, 87% 20, 56% 29, 20% 36, 90%
82 9, 41% 17, 93% 25, 64% 32, 64%
83 8, 04% 15, 43% 22, 22% 28, 47%
84 6, 77% 13, 08% 18, 97% 24, 45%
85 5, 61% 10, 91% 15, 92% 20, 64%
86 4, 57% 8, 93% 13, 10% 17, 07%
87 3, 64% 7, 15% 10, 53% 13, 79%
88 2, 83% 5, 58% 8, 25% 10, 84%
89 2, 13% 4, 21% 6, 25% 8, 25%
90 1, 54% 3, 06% 4, 55% 6, 02%
91 1, 06% 2, 11% 3, 15% 4, 18%
92 0, 69% 1, 37% 2, 05% 2, 72%
93 0, 41% 0, 81% 1, 21% 1, 61%
94 0, 21% 0, 42% 0, 63% 0, 83%
95 0, 09% 0, 17% 0, 26% 0, 35%

[MCvicRPG]

For amount. If im not building an artifact or landfall deck i usually start with 37 land slots and then look at the manabase at the end of deckbuilding and see what excactly my deck needs. Including if i need more or less slots for lands.

[eddight]

Loved the episode. Only thing I'd recommend also keeping in consideration is pips. If you're a two color deck but all your red spells only need one mountain but your white spells need 2+, you should factor that into what colors you need your lands to produce.

[plain]

Best (non ultra expensive) land is scavenger grounds. It saves you more than you think. It’s in 100% of my 17 decks.

[alhsr]

This video was so helpful! I always keep my land count on the lower side, but after hearing these draw percentages I realized that I need more land to improve my deck.

[repeataftermeme]

I agree basic lands are the bread and butter. Anything else is a bonus and if your deck can use it throw it in. If it won’t benefit the way you want then leave it out. Other cards like artifacts depending on how you feel can help.

[SirVoidest]

“I cannot think of any player that is naturally running too many lands.”

Hello, it is me. The too many land man