Chinese Z-10 patrolling in Karakoram | Can Rudra over power Z-10?

Chinese Z-10 patrolling in Karakonam

According to a Chinese media report on July 14, for the first time, The Chinese People's Liberation Army's (PLA) attack helicopters started to join transport helicopters in routine border patrols in the high-altitude Karakoram Mountains. An army aviation brigade attached to the PLA Xinjiang Military Command recently teamed up with special forces and medical units in a live fire combat-scenario exercise featuring multiple types of ammunitions, combat elements and training courses deep in the Karakoram Mountains at an altitude of 5,200 meters. The Chinese Z-10 attack helicopters joined the drills for the first time which is being celebrated by Chinese media as it breaks the past practice of having only transport helicopters carry border defense troops for patrol missions. In summary, the Z-10 helicopters are now being used by PLA Army for patrol missions and China is bosting its capability.

Underpowered Z-10

Even last year PLA fielded their Z-10 attack helicopters at LAC during the stand-off between the two biggest militaries of Asia. However, it was reported that the flight availability for Z-10 was below 35% and had to face difficulty in flying with minimum payload. The Z-10s have been known to be operationally unsuitable for high-altitude operations because of their domestically built WZ-9 engine, which experts regard as too weak for the 5.5-ton helicopter. Even Pakistan Army rejected the Z-10 attack helicopters and preferred Turkish T-129 ATAK attack helicopter citing the performance issues of Chinese attack helicopters at high altitudes. Compared to an output of 1,300HP produced by the WZ-9 turboshaft engine, the HAL’s ALH Rudra powered by 2 Shakti-1H turboshaft engine generates 1432 shp each which is much more than that of Z-10 helicopters. When China has fielded its Z-10 in response IAF has fielded Rudra which outperformed the PLA attack helicopter due to its excellent availability and performance at high altitudes. Infact, all the choppers in Indian Armed forces inventory are designed & manufactured with special attention given to high altitude performance. Indian Air Force's 116 Helicopter Unit, which is equipped with the HAL Rudra has been lauded for its superior offensive operations at a high-altitude airfield in the Ladakh area by the Air Chief Marshal VR Chaudhary who awarded ‘unit citation’ to three squadrons of the Indian Air Force for their role in boosting India’s military presence in eastern Ladakh.

Z-10 vs ALH Rudra

The HAL Rudra mark IV, also known as ALH-WSI(Weapon system Integrated), is an armed version of HAL Dhruv which is designed and manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). The helicopter can be used in both unarmed and armed roles that include reconnaissance, troop transport, anti-tank warfare and close air support. At present IAF operates one squadron of Rudra with 16 helicopters and Army has 75 Rudra in service and 25 more on order.

Now talking about WZ-10 Attack helicopters, it is a Chinese medium attack helicopter developed by the Changhe Aircraft Industries Group (CHAIG) and China Helicopter Research and Development Institute (CHRDI) for the People's Liberation Army Ground Force. It is designed primarily for anti-tank warfare missions and has limited air-to-air combat capability as well. PLA is estimated to operate fleet of 180 Z-10 choppers. In September 2016, the PLA had announced that all of its army aviation units had been equipped with the Z-10 helicopters.

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[mukulbajpai]

I think the only thing we have a decisive edge over Chinese is our light helicopter. I hope we develop our complete catalogue of air launched missiles.

[saiprateek]

Z10 can never beat our LCH in High altitude operations, not even ALH Rudra if in combat.

Unless ALH Rudra and LCH procured in high nos. by Indian Army and Air Force.

[profbjbora]

We need more numbers. Sometimes quantity also matters. It is not always a consolation to say about pilot skills. Never underestimate your enemy. We need quality and quantity both. That is the harsh reality.

[sanjaypriyadarshi]

How many Rudra’s we have now in inventory ?

[Babai_]

Bhai does LCH have wingtip hardpoints to carry A2A missiles ? Both Apache & Viper helicopters have such capability

[AarvinMS]

We need to develop hi-tech high altitude flying combat drones with the latest weapons.

[MrRonnymangang]

The Israeli Spike NLOS procurement by IAF is a welcome addition with an effective range far exceeding any existing missiles of its class. The 15 LCH hopefully will be ordered in significant numbers. IMRH will be a game changer provided we stick to the timeline. Please update the latest on SANT.

[siddhurahu]

Its all about the combination of weapons they carry... and the advantages.. attack helicopters can also bring down fighters n viceversa...

[datoolz]

Given that the Army/IAF combined only have 116 helicopters and PLA has 180 Z-10. It would be smart to order
more 40 more LCH immediately so the numbers disadvantage does not become fatal if war breaks out. The LCH is armed with
a mistral air to air missile, but manpads and more Akash at the borders are also needed.

The weapons integration of the HELINA needs to be fast tracked so the LCH has better weapons than laser guided rockets and its gun.
An indigenous version of the Roketsan Cirit would be great as would an indigenous engine when it is ready. The helicopter itself seems
ready but it needs better weapons. and indigenous ones because those are cheaper and can be fielded in larger numbers.

[mihirajgaonkar]

You should have also included the LCH along with Rudra in comparison with Z10.

[SMCGPRA]

Cheena is testing all its equipments and weapons in high altitude

[bijoylaha]

Borders hydra hydraulic type tower setup quick time

[gauravdey]

Apache and LCH can do the job but we have so few of them. Looks like we need to procure Man portable Rocket launchers in huge numbers.

[amitkrai]

it is karakoram #### range and not karakonam .
correct it

[unknownunknown-tgvw]

Only frontline squadron of Indian alliance with us Apache helicopters with rudra helicopter in our side, enrolling on Chinese border can stop the Chinese aggression, leaving them front and thinking in back nothing going to happen, block them with alliance squad or watch them playing at lac

[shubhrarastogi]

At the speed of our production, ALH will be obsolete by the we have numbers to make a difference. We can beat out chest but not many countries buying our defence wares as they are from Turkey, China and South Korea, to name a few

[Mat-jnpf]

Problem this is a numbers game with China, and the snails pace of production of helicopters and jets of India will be its downfall.

[pratyushojha]

The 6 Apache of Indian army will handle the PLA. We don't need LCH.

[babuvishwass]

Chinese Military has Upper Hand over Indian Military in all areas especially in areas of Artillery and Missile Firepower.

[jyd]

China’s most advanced weapon systems are the result of reverse-engineering on the US weapon basis, let me put it bluntly. Thus, those weapons couldn’t overcome the Chinese copycats’ functional defects, which means if those weapons confront India’s army, those made in China weapons can’t survive on the battlefield no matter what they try.
India’s citizens should remember the awesome result at the border of India through the reliable howitzer, India’s K-9 made PLA fall back at the time, however, CCP didn’t inform the worst news to Chinese citizens.