1969 Pontiac GTO Judge vs. 2006 Custom Pontiac GTO - Generation Gap: GTOs

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Today on “Generation Gap,” we’re visiting the Lingenfelter Collection. Known for Lingenfelter Performance Engineering, Ken Lingenfelter was kind enough to let us experience some of his personal cars. Being able to check a few cars off our bucket list, we decided to compare GTOs. Davin has picked the aggressive muscle of a 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge, equipped with a 366 HP 400 V-8 High Output engine with Ram Air III. Matt picked a bit of a cheater 2006 Pontiac Custom GTO. The modern GTO is straight from GM Performance with a Twin Turbo LS2 with 750 HP. Which one would you rather drive?

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It's actually carousel red not orbit orange

talhataj
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I own an 04, and my dad has a 64' both cars are kind of special in their own way. Every time I take the 04 out I enjoy driving it and I don't see any others.

justinmaxwell
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i'm always a sucker for vintage American Muscle, so the nostalgia kicks in and wins it. but i gotta say, that 06 GTO looks as nasty as they come. certainly one of the sickest machines of the modern era. if i could go back in time i would get to a Pontiac dealership, and order 4 of them. :)

CHUUMPASS
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360p?! Are you shittin' me motor trend?

nageorgiou
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I don't know what it is about this show, call it lack of compatibility or maybe awkwardness but it just feels weird. There's no vibe like Roadkill gives off. There's always something missing and this episode is no exception. Bring out Finnegan and Freiburger!

ScaryGhost
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Too bad that 69' Judge did not have the Ram Air IV engine. That thing was wicked!

barcrrt
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Jeez Matt. " Hey let's take this one off custom vs your restored factory muscle car" at least fight fair.

SophiaAphrodite
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Love both hands down. IF I had to choose the 06

EljonRichardson
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I also agree. The 04-06 GTO is a rebadged Holden Menaro with a different front fascia. Having said that, I am a HUGE fan of the 04-05 GTO. I honestly never even knew that an 06 was released. I drove the LS1-350 HP powered 04 with a 6 speed and it was alot of fun, and the air ride with the low profile 18 inch wheels made it a phenomenal handling car. I never got to drive an 05 but the LS2 had to have made the car even better though because I honestly felt that the LS1 didn't have the low end torque that I felt that the car should've had to match the looks. If I'm going to buy a $40, 000 V8 performance car that you have to rev the shit out of to spin the tires, then it better have a head that pops out of the lower dash and gives me pleasure while I drive because if not I'll be an unhappy customer. For me, you just can't beat the smell, the feel, and the passion of an old carbureted muscle car. I always feel like I contradict myself when I comment on these videos because I almost always love both cars but for me, nothing can beat the feeling that you get when you get behind the wheel of an vintage piece of iron with a big displacement fire breathing V8 under the hood and a big hog leg to throw around.

Brock_Landers
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I had a 70' GTO with 455 and that full frame car towed a 6 x12' Uhaul box trailer loaded down at 4, 000 lbs(just the trailer) and the 455 pulled it no problem. This was a 2, 700 mile trip from Northern Maine to AZ.

Yeah, those old cars were not only fast but were good work horses when you needed it.

foxsecret
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New GTO: great motor - horrible looking.  Looks like a bloated Grand-Am.  Give me the old "Judge" any day.  Put the new motor in the old one FTW!

DebianDog
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I love seeing these two guys get more comfortable with each other and the camera. Keep it up!

emmanuelmonge
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Are they seriously suggesting its ok to compare performance of a production car from the late 60s, to a factory backed custom build sporting 21st century tech?

Come the fuck on, don't insult the intelligence of your audience like this.

ekscalybur
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Don't care about the 06 but love the 69 Judge. Even if the 06 will out perform the 69, it'll never look as good.

greghorn
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I'd take the classic, but I'm old too.  Was the new one even available to the public in that configuration?

tbird
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Great comparison of a Judge GTO and a Holden Monaro with a turbo... 

FentonDaniel
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your failing on your knowledge of the Judge... the Ram Air III had more than 366HP as it was underrated as was with the RAIV not to mention the judge isn't actually orange. its carousel Red.... I just drove my 69 judge on a roadtrip to KC to meet up with a bunch of the youtube garage gang members to redo a 54 chevy truck in 2 days....  a true GTO hasn't existed since way back imo... all rise for the judge....

GRIM_REAPER
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I own an 05 Yellow Jacket M-6 GTO 41k miles Love the car. Does it look like a 69?? Nope but its not 69!! How does it perform?? Mine has 451 HP at the wheels. She can run for sure. With the upgrades it handles great. Gives me about 24 or so on the highway.

paulrollins
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Nothing can seriously top a ORIGINAL JUDGE!!!!

SuperSAM
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Speaking about The Judge, if I can buy it, I'm not buying that car physically but, but exactly the glorious history of that GTO and I am truly loving it, As For Me, The Judge Wins My Heart..

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