Impressive Tai Chi vs Muay Thai Matches

We have three Chen Tai Chi vs Muay Thai matches from at least a decade ago. The website of the promotion doesn't even look like it exists anymore, so I don't know if any of the full matches exist online, but we're doing our best to preserve these awesome matches in martial arts history! Let us know which match you liked in this commentary!

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Timecodes:
0:00 Match one
2:20 Match two
5:19 Match three
8:49 Final thoughts

[johnwick-ffql]

The 3rd muay thai guy was a genius strategist . He tested all his offenses because he was confident in his resilience and started dialing it up from the 2nd round but at first i though he was drunk lol . Anyways it was a good respresentation of tai unlike the bullshido masters .Anyways great video . Loved it .

I would also like some good yaw yan, vovinam , choy gar, hung gar videos

[owlee]

I train in Chen-Style Tai Chi Chuan for about 4.5 years. The type of strikes that Tai Chi has is very similar to many other martial arts (punches, kicks, knees, elbows, shoulder strikes). Most Tai Chi martial artists spend most of their time training in push hands so they tend to develop more of the grappling aspect of the art (leg sweeps, takedowns, hand fighting and wrestling).

[Thefare]

I recall these matches from about nine or ten years ago. It think the Chen Village fighters trained in sanda for a period to prepare for these events. Chen Village people are experienced in grappling and regularly participate in competitions. These fighters are students of Wang Zhanjun, who has the opinion that traditional Chen-style grappling techniques should be integrated with sport martial arts like sanda to make them more effective for combat sports. If you search his name, you'll find step-by-step tutorials on traditional Chen Taiji fighting techniques. Many of their throw techniques can be seen in these matches. However, these fighters obviously use a combination of their training in sanda and taiji. (Edit: or maybe they are from Chen Ziqiang’s camp who has also done sanda, can’t remember after so many years)

[Skaxarrat]

That Tai Chi guy seems an octopus, the way he catches kicks.

[video_battle]

These taichi guys definitely trained in full contact with sanda opponents. They're really experienced fighters

[BWater-yqjx]

2:03
Yang Tai Chi has knee strikes - 'Golden Rooster stands on one leg' - immediately after the distinctive 'Snake Creeps Down' movement.

[harpoon]

Sometimes it’s not the style, but the fighter in the fight and the fight in the fighter.

[johngr]

We learn these sweeps from the kick catch in Sanda

[Seven-not-Six]

Not bad at all👍 they made catching kicks look very easy.

[Augusto-jjsj]

Best tai chi in youtube here woooo amazing stuff

[mengmao]

2:53: there's head kick catches that use the same side arm to block, but also those that use the opposide side arm coming across the face to "alligator jaw" the kicking leg and holding into onto the shoulder while either dumping the opponent straight back or kicking out the support leg with the opposite side leg. The alligator jaw one is obviously highly risky (in UFC FN Macao, Wang Cong screwed it up but Muslim Salikhov did it successfully one handed, no block) and should be done if you same side arm is already punching and your opposite side hand is in guard and can reach out to block sooner; or if you read the high kick early and can circle away from it to remove some of the power

[johnmcintosh]

How do you think things would have changed if it was on a Lei Tai (sp). Asking because Muay Thai fighters used the ropes to avoid being thrown. Any idea what rule set was used?

Edit - forgot to thank you for the videos.

[dknyutube]

in street fight muay thai guys lost. If they got thrown on the concrete floor multiple time, I don't think they would come back up.

[flowrepins]

I never seen effective martial art tai chi in real fight b4

[BramBramSyailendra]

maybe he combine sanda, and shuai jiao leg sweep in his arsenal

[XianWangTheo]

there is knee in taichi, but it is also executes in grappling position not throwing knees

[Karylrx]

At end of the day TCC, looks as any other msrtial art, the difference in the sensing and the use of internal energy, but a kick is a kick and the same for the punches.

[Rderque]

I attended some of these Muay Thai vs fights in China with some relatively well known Chinese martial artists. I don't know how true this is but they explained to me that some of these are just to boost morale or Chinese martial arts and that they do modify the rules slightly to favor the Chinese fighter. Can't confirm or deny if it's true but just what i heard at the time

[matthewbreytenbach]

Yup, there are knees. Elbows as well, and shoulders.

If you'd like, here's a video I found of a friendly grapping spar against Chen Ziqiang.

And some Yang Style guys sparring

[ThaigabPam]

Wow! This is exactly what my students keep talking about—no wonder they’re so in love with Thai culture!😊