Comparing South Bend & Rhodes Shaper TIPS 680 tubalcain

I SOLD THE RHODES SHAPER--Oct 2020
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[ohmbug]

Old machines are just a thing of beauty. Same with old architecture. Thanks for all the skill, time and effort you put into your videos.

[longcaster]

Lyle, It makes me happy for to part with your cherished treasures while you are still alive. You get to see and feel the joy one gets when we pass things forward.

Never stop doing what you do so well while you still can. Do the auctions and tours, they bring joy to your heart.

[GaryT]

Glad that I stayed till the end Mr. Pete... you are quite the detective! That Rhodes in its original configuration was a beauty for sure. Makes you wonder whatever happened to the original drive components...lucky that the whole machine wasn't scrapped for the war effort. You are fortunate to have the SB as built and original. Loved this series!

[midnightrunner]

I'm glad there are still people like you in the world that know how to work these machines..I'm lost ...My Dad was a Mine Mechanic in the Pennsylvania coal mine and a mill right ..in the 60's and 70's .he would have understood those machines..I'm not that smart ...My Dad passed away at age 49 in January 1988 From Blacklung from the coalmines. .A Us Army Veteran. He is Buried With Honors at Baypines National cemetery Pinellas county Fl

[markthompson]

It always pays to stay for the extra credit. loved the extra detail in this video.

[jeffanderson]

I had no idea the Rhodes was that old. I had a 7” Rhodes. The base casting is extremely heavy and very rough. They didn’t touch up their molds often enough. Lots of filler on the outside to hide the poor casting.
I traded it for two Jacob’s rubber flex collet chucks which included three boxes of collets!
Kind of shows you the value of these shapers.
I think your South Bend is leagues ahead of the Rhodes.
I enjoyed this video very much!
Thank you

[billwilson]

Great way for me to start my Sunday. Great cup of coffee and watching a shaper that is older than I am still working!

[JTL]

Lyle,
Thanks for the comparison. I have a Rhodes 7” shaper but the previous owner has done some major modifications on it. The biggest changes are it has a Bakelite bull gear and 4 step matched pulleys. The bull gear makes my shaper extremely quiet with no gear rattle at all. The pulleys give me speed ranges of 21, 39, 74 and 132 strokes per minute.
John

[michaelrandle]

Thanks for the vid Mr Pete, I just love the little shapers, and the bigger ones, I find them hypnotic.

[millomweb]

13:00 The rattle on the Rhodes is just gear rattle. A flow of oil onto the gears meshing inside should reduce that quite a lot. It's very much the same gear rattle as steam traction engines. Also, nip up the ram way a little to put a little permanent load on the gears - would also likely quieten them a bit. It is though only noise and nothing to worry about !

[millomweb]

6:35 2 screws on the clapper box swing - take 1 out will give a greater range of swing than with just 1 centre screw!

[RRINTHESHOP]

Nice overview. Like the vertical conversion feature.

[andyZs]

It is always interesting to see the manufacturing differences from different decades and manufacturers. The vertical slotting attachment would be a handy tool to have set up in the home shop especially with the tilting ram. With a little rotary table some hss and a grinder you would be ready to go. Thanks for showing the pictures and patents.

[fringehead]

The south bend was very beautiful and that Rhodes looked strong as heck
Shapers are a lot of fun to watch once in a while

[leeroyholloway]

Your timing is impeccable ! I have contracted 'Shaper Fever' as I have just restored a Lewis 10 inch and an Atlas (Sears branded) 7B. Noting the differences as well: I like the Lewis for it's mass and simplicity. I like the Atlas for it's ease of adjustment & setup. Both machines perform very well... mesmerizing to watch.

[tuffymartinez]

Thank You Lyle....Coffee & mrpete222 on a Sunday morning wake up...How times have changed (seems faster than my brain can adjust)....but I do adjust. I look forward to the future as I have learned from the past although I do very much miss the old ways, so much. My grandfather said the same. At the time I thought it silly of him,

[abywater]

Interesting video (as always!). Without meaning to criticise as an "armchair" machinist, I would have been interested to see a comparison for the setting up of the shaper, with regards to length of stroke, cutting depth, vice increments etc. Still very interesting.

[AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Thanks for another great edutainment video from the worlds top shop teacher.

[wbs]

lyle
I looked for the Rhodes Company since Hartford is close by. It seems that Rhodes started with a hand cranked shaper. Then they went to one driven by your own overhead line shaft. Then when electric motor drive were coming in to shops they offered the cast iron base with a 1/2 hp motor. They were pretty innovative and offered dividing heads various types of tables and all sorts of tooling that you would expect to find on milling machines. The company is L.E. Rhodes and may have moved to Waltham Mass. Not to be confused with M.H. Rhodes who also was in the Hartford area until recently that made electrical components.

[danbreyfogle]

Very interesting Mr. Pete. Old machinery has such a grand look to it, I am so impressed with that cast iron base on the Rhodes. But I would probably prefect the Southbend with its storage.