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Intro to Dan Brubaker’s 20 Qur’anic Corrections - Quranic Corrections Episode 1
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These talks are to help Christians who are working with Muslims, and to help Muslims deal with some of the problems with their foundations.
This particular series concerns the Qur’an, and whether it has been perfectly preserved. Back in 2014 Jay did a debate with Dr Shabir Ally in Toronto where he introduced from the front a number of corrections out of a total of 800 which had been found by Dr Dan Brubaker and included in his doctoral thesis.
Since that time that debate has been watched by over 500,000, and Muslims have responded by saying that Jay couldn’t be trusted because he doesn’t speak Arabic. That is why Al Fadi has joined with Jay in this series, as he is an Arab from Saudi Arabia, speaks not only modern standard Arabic, but speaks and works in Qur’anic Arabic, and is doing his doctoral research in this area of research concerning the earliest Qur’anic manuscripts.
Muslims have claimed that these corrections are nothing more than simple dialectical differences, or different readings, popularly known as
‘Ahruf’, or ‘Qira’at’.
Al Fadi quickly dispels this notion, noting that the corrections which we are referring to have nothing to do with dialectical differences, or differences with how someone might read it. These differences are consonantal differences, in other words, they are changes to the actual written text, known as ‘Rasm’ in Arabic. More about this will be explained later on in other episodes.
Muslims make 4 claims about their Arabic Qur’an:
1) It is un-created, or eternal (Surah 85:22)
2) It was sent down to one man, Muhammad in 22 years
3) It was compiled completely by Uthman in 652 AD
4) It has never changed in the last 1400 years
Jay and Al Fadi can’t confront the first two claims, but they can and plan to confront the last two claims, that it was compiled completely in 652 AD, and has never changed since that time.
Thus, they are asking 3 simple things of Muslims…to show them one complete manuscript of the Qur’an (114 Surahs), from the time of Uthman
(652 AD), which is unchanged (i.e. which corresponds exactly with our current 1924 ‘Hafs’ text).
What they are asking, and what they are doing is simply known as Textual Criticism, a test which every sacred or historical book has to pass (and the Qur’an, like the Bible is both). This is the same text which the Bible had to undergo back in the 1800s, but has passed with ‘flying colors’.
What’s more, no Christian would make the claim about their Bible that Muslims are now making about their Qur’an. We would never suggest that our Bible is eternal, nor uncreated, nor that it was sent down from heaven to one man (inspired by God, yes, but not ‘sent down’). We would, however, claim that the Bible was complete in its original form, and though we admit there have been changes in the Bible since the first century, we would be clear that what we have today, because of the enormous manuscript and textual trove at our disposal today, is pretty much 99.9% the same as that which was written down in the first century AD.
So, join us as we delve into the last two claims by Muslims concerning their Qur’an, and try to ascertain whether their Qur’an can be traced textually back to the time of Muhammad, or even Uthman, and whether the Qur’an they have today is exactly the same that which we can find in the earliest Qur’anic manuscripts; or whether, indeed, the Qur’an has been corrected or not over the intervening 1400 years.
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This particular series concerns the Qur’an, and whether it has been perfectly preserved. Back in 2014 Jay did a debate with Dr Shabir Ally in Toronto where he introduced from the front a number of corrections out of a total of 800 which had been found by Dr Dan Brubaker and included in his doctoral thesis.
Since that time that debate has been watched by over 500,000, and Muslims have responded by saying that Jay couldn’t be trusted because he doesn’t speak Arabic. That is why Al Fadi has joined with Jay in this series, as he is an Arab from Saudi Arabia, speaks not only modern standard Arabic, but speaks and works in Qur’anic Arabic, and is doing his doctoral research in this area of research concerning the earliest Qur’anic manuscripts.
Muslims have claimed that these corrections are nothing more than simple dialectical differences, or different readings, popularly known as
‘Ahruf’, or ‘Qira’at’.
Al Fadi quickly dispels this notion, noting that the corrections which we are referring to have nothing to do with dialectical differences, or differences with how someone might read it. These differences are consonantal differences, in other words, they are changes to the actual written text, known as ‘Rasm’ in Arabic. More about this will be explained later on in other episodes.
Muslims make 4 claims about their Arabic Qur’an:
1) It is un-created, or eternal (Surah 85:22)
2) It was sent down to one man, Muhammad in 22 years
3) It was compiled completely by Uthman in 652 AD
4) It has never changed in the last 1400 years
Jay and Al Fadi can’t confront the first two claims, but they can and plan to confront the last two claims, that it was compiled completely in 652 AD, and has never changed since that time.
Thus, they are asking 3 simple things of Muslims…to show them one complete manuscript of the Qur’an (114 Surahs), from the time of Uthman
(652 AD), which is unchanged (i.e. which corresponds exactly with our current 1924 ‘Hafs’ text).
What they are asking, and what they are doing is simply known as Textual Criticism, a test which every sacred or historical book has to pass (and the Qur’an, like the Bible is both). This is the same text which the Bible had to undergo back in the 1800s, but has passed with ‘flying colors’.
What’s more, no Christian would make the claim about their Bible that Muslims are now making about their Qur’an. We would never suggest that our Bible is eternal, nor uncreated, nor that it was sent down from heaven to one man (inspired by God, yes, but not ‘sent down’). We would, however, claim that the Bible was complete in its original form, and though we admit there have been changes in the Bible since the first century, we would be clear that what we have today, because of the enormous manuscript and textual trove at our disposal today, is pretty much 99.9% the same as that which was written down in the first century AD.
So, join us as we delve into the last two claims by Muslims concerning their Qur’an, and try to ascertain whether their Qur’an can be traced textually back to the time of Muhammad, or even Uthman, and whether the Qur’an they have today is exactly the same that which we can find in the earliest Qur’anic manuscripts; or whether, indeed, the Qur’an has been corrected or not over the intervening 1400 years.
Follow CIRA International:
Support Al Fadi:
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