Review: ECM S-Automatik 64 Burr Grinder

[dacman]

I have this grinder and it is awesome. I am happy I picked it up.

[meredith]

After purchasing my Synchronika and crossing my fingers that my old Breville grinder would do the trick - it didn't, just wouldn't grind fine enough even on the lowest setting, I was trying to decide which grinder to purchase when I found your videos. I was thinking about the Ceado S37J but didn't like the way it adjusted so ended up with this grinder and $600 in my pocket (AUD). So far so good and has made all of the difference in the performance of my espresso machine.

[krisudhir]

Most excellent job with all the videos, Mark!! I have learned a lot from you. The way you present information is mind-blowing, and I can see the extra effort put into content editing. You sound no less than a professional radio host and voiceover artist! Much Gratitude to you and WLL.

[luukvanduijse]

i have this grinder and i'm an engineer and love using this grinder ! totally agree that worm gear works beautifully

[chaynes]

Howdy Marc and Todd!! Excellent reviews, really appreciate all the technical detail. I was wondering if you could do review on the ECM S-Manuale 64, trying to decide on that and the Ceado E5P. Thanks guys!

[onorlin]

Hello, thanks for a great review. I'm in the market for the ECM s-automatik 64 and a ECM Synchronika but i have heard that there are issues with clogging in this grinder. Coffe get stuck in the grinder and you have to clean it out often. Have you had any experience with this issue?

[escapadoenophileetcafeolog]

hello, and thanks for all these fantastic videos. I hesitate between ECM Manuale 64, S Automatic 64 and ECM Titan. The quality of the grind seems identical. For me, retention is important because I practice "single dosing". It also seems that the S-A is less bulky than the Titan. But the Titant must have other advantages. Merry Christmas !

[TheWazoo]

Hi Marc .. I Know ECM S-Auto grinder & Profitec T64 are the identical inside & same company, But if you have to take one home, which one are you grabbing?

[piermariodipietro]

Hi Marc, thanks again for yet another great review. I’m leaning towards this product but i’m concerned by the cleaning of the burrs and subsequent reassembly and calibration. Is there any video covering this? Thanks

[ShaktiRupp]

Thanks for the informative video! I’m TORN between the ECM S-Automatik 64, and the Ceado E6P. Can you please help advise me?

[michaelmusson]

I bought this machine the ECM S-Automatik 64 in the black to complement my ECM Synchronika and it's works fine except it's stuck on manual I been looking all over and can't figure how to correct it.

[scottluterotty]

1)Are the adjustment collars on the S-Auto (black composite?) and Titan (stainless steel) interchangeable? Bothers me more than the seam. 2) Is there any industry standard for grind size to allow comparison of noise level and speed of an 18g. shot. 3) How much of a turn to go from espresso to drip grind? I could keep my Breville Pro for drip, or try the C-manual to do both with quicker change-over, sacrificing fine adjustment and grind speed? 4) Your thoughts on the single dose modifications by Jewel Kobayashi? Too many coffees to try, and not really fair without a near zero retention grind option.

[PierreMarin-fl]

I have this grider and a Casa V . What number(s) should i set the grinder for espresso? Also what do you use as the mark line to see what number you are at? There is no line to show this.

[dirkmorgensetrn]

Hi Marc, thanks for all the reviews. I like this grinder, but I am not sure to buy it. I am looking for a silent grinder. Most of will wake my neighbors. So which one you would recommend? Is there a test? Looks like most of the test are not interested in the noise. Thanks

[barbarasareeram]

Hi Marc, lovely machine and contemplating a purchase but called
your support dept inquiring as to the calibration. I’m a little weary
that I may cause damage if not done properly. Real estate in the
kitchen is limited therefore want a small grinder that is comparable
to the Rocket Appartamento. Sette 270, no calibration however
the ECM is, or not, a better quality grinder? Sorry to put you on
the spot since you sell both…Yikes!

[igorvtketel]

My right LED is broken what should I do? The left and middle still work correctly. And I never had the dancing lights how is that possible? I do have a gray screen instead of black.

[mattbb]

Hi. I purchased the 64 following your review. It arrived the other day and I am disappointed to find the grind contains clumps, something my significantly cheaper Gaggia grinder has never done. They do disappear in tamping but just a bit shocked at this price point. Can you give any tips or advice on why I am getting this. I am still dialling in my beans, having just purchased this, along with the ECM Technika. Love the channel you are doing a great job !

[alexkar]

I currently use Sette 270 W, and I find this machine rather poor quality: very noisy, weighing is erratic, and after third repair I decided to replace it with something better. Having the ECM Synchronica, I definitely see the quality of that particular espresso machine, and this fact turned me to consider the ECM grinder. My questions regarding ECM S-Atomatic grinder: Noise produced by grinders comparing to Sette 270 W and other machines. It is relatively cheap and easy to get a noise measuring device, so to obtain the adequate data should not be so difficult having access to all these grinders. The 2nd question: heat generation during milling: This is more difficult to measure, and I do not know whether using an infrared measuring device (they are cheap and easy to get) to get temperature of milled coffee is the right method to measure it.
the 3rd question: how much plastic vs metal is used to construct interiors of these mills? Plastics are resonating easier, are less durable and, as is the case with Sette 270, scream cheap.

[xuarchie]

after watching your video again, i have to ask if users lose the grinding size adjustment after cleaning the burs? it looks so, because its adjustment system looks similar to mazzer mini or baratza vario rather than ceado 37s or Eureka Zenith.

[ewadhagen]

@Whole Latte Love Wow, thank you for a speedy answer!
I Think it stands between the ECM and the Ceado, however there is a fairly big difference in price. Here in Sweden the ECM is 726 dollars (7000 SEK) and the Ceado is 865 dollars (8300 SEK). What would you choose given the prices, is the Ceado 139 dollars better?



I looked at the Baratza Sette 270Wi and it seems like a dream to grind in weight, however i really want a grinder i never have to change or upgrade.



Coffe grinder is truly a jungle, thank you for helping me!!

Erik in Sweden