God’s mind changes in the Bible

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[CB]

My favorite apologetic excuse when faced with this is to say that God didn't change his mind, he just acted according to his timetable...

Just add stuff the authors don't say and you're golden.

[eddieromanov]

I felt a great disturbance in the Force. It was as if 1, 000 Calvinists cried out in fury and were silenced.

[billcook]

Once people accept that the god of the Bible is not perfect, not all knowing, etc. everything makes a lot more sense. If you want to continue believing that God is perfect, you have to tie yourself in knots trying to reconcile that god with what is written.

[johnburn]

Yet getting some Christians, especially fundamentalists, to see that is almost impossible.

[saken]

The whole concept of praying for something is to ask God to change their mind.

[BlackDeath]

Going from the old testament to the new testament is a change of mind.

[johnpetry]

G-d regularly changes their mind in the Tanakh. There are several places where G-d announces they are royally pissed off at the Jews and he is going to cancel their ticket and some prophet convinces him not to do it. Abraham convinces G-d when they talk about Sodom & Gomorrah not to destroy it if he can find a certain number of righteous people in those cities. Then Abraham haggles G-d down to a smaller and smaller number, kind of like how my dad taught me to negotiate when I was a kid. Apparently, Abraham, like my dad, believed only fools paid retail.

[angelonzuji]

This is one of the many reasons I stopped to believe in Bible prophecies for our time.
As a former Seventh-day Adventist I use to believe that prophecy was about to fulfill unconditionally. Today this whole belief system that I had has collapsed like a house of cards.

By the way, the book of Jonah is one of my favorite books of the Bible. It’s an unusual story and too funny 😂

[DneilB]

It’s also a core element of the Sodom story (Abraham bargains Adonai down on the number of righteous people in Sodom), Adonai’s response to David’s census, the Flood story, and several other places in the Old Testament where the text says that “God repented”.

[nancyhope]

God says at the end of Jonah that it is people who want to punish, that it is enough for him if they repent. God changes in the Bible, he puts up the rainbow to mark it.

[Ta-bdtx]

I think that’s why the most important verses in scripture is you will know them by their fruits.

[jamescutler]

"For contemporary concepts of God, philosophy overrules the bible when it comes to whether or not God changes their mind."

Dan your videos are pure gold. Some of the most badly needed videos on the internet.

[Goodellsam]

If God knows everything that will happen, he knows that people are imperfect. He chose to create imperfection.
If he gave them free will, he allowed them to be tempted. He knew they would fail.

[spoofoid]

This is a really important thing for conservative Christians to understand - that if a text contradicts their existing doctrinal system, their leaders are more than happy to completely relativise 'the plain meaning of the text.' So we are left with questions of power: in whose interest is it that some texts are taken literally and others are 'contextualised' into silence?

[Kooky_Duzzfutz]

The most glaring example of God changing his mind is when he went from being a psychopath who instructed people to brutally execute one another for their "sins, " some rather mundane, by stoning, etc. To encouraging people to love their enemies, turn the other cheek when "attacked, " and admonishing people that, "he who is without sin cast the first stone." From vengeful monster to spiritually empathetic being. It seems pretty schizophrenic to me. A complete about face.

[tiburd]

Yes, Jeremiah 18:7-10 explicitly states the principle that God will systematically change his mind in response to the situation, in order to do what is right. Jonah is a narrative that provides an example or illustration of that principle. Those two passages, at least, align.

[SHRUBBERT]

Most Christians will probably say he isn’t literally changing his mind and it means he will just not punish someone or do something anymore because something happened

[jamescampbell]

It's the main theme in the Book of Jonah but it's also a theme in The Exodus story. God refers to Israel as his people and then when the golden calf happens God refers to Israel as Moses's people. Moses has to intercede on Israel's behalf because God wants to destroy them and build a nation from Moses' descendants, but Moses talks him out of it.

The whole story of Abraham's intercession for Sodom is Illustrative of this idea also.

The reason a lot of churches are uncomfortable with the concept of God changing his mind is because that was the central pillar idea of replacement theology, which allowed Christians to do many awful things to their fellow humans.

[mamertens]

Hey Dan, I was researching about nakedness and Christianity. Especially the resent of nakedness. Can you say something about it on the biblical side? Especially because Genesis 3:8-10 and Rev 3:18 16:15 is seen as a nudety = sin. Thank you

[johnlaudenslager]

You're a brave man, pissing against the wind or maybe like Sisyphus forever rolling the boulder up hill. I'm an athiest already but subscribe for the clarity and details of you criticism 👍👍