Does Proverbs 8:22,23,30 say Jesus was created?

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This video exposits on why Proverbs 8:22,23,30 is not about Jesus and refuting the claim that He was a created being.

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Thanks for watching. Have you ever heard anyone explain this text claiming this proves that Jesus was created?

JustScriptureMinistries
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Why is Jesus called wisdom though in corinthains?

ThePreacherman
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WHAT I'M READING NOW IS PROVERBS 8, WHILE READING THE 22TH VERSE TO THE LAST VERSE, I WAS ASKING IN MY MIND IS JESUS ​​THE ONE REFERRED TO HERE? AND I SAID TO MYSELF IF IT IS JESUS, SO GOD JUST MADE JESUS??, WHAT I DID I TOOK OUT MY KJV BIBLE AND I READ IT BUT I WAS STILL CONFUSED SO I GOOGLED BUT I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING, SO I TURNED ON YOUTUBE I WATCHED A VIDEO THAT SAID LADY WISDOM BUT IT WASN'T ENOUGH FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, SO I SAW THIS VIDEO WHICH HAD IT THAT "DOES PROVERBS 8:22, 23, 30 SAY JESUS WAS CREATED?' SO I WATCHED IT, THIS VERY HELPFUL I UNDERSTOOD SO MUCH, NOW IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT JESUS ​​IS NOT THE ONE REFERRED TO IN PROVERBS 8, THANKYOUSOMUCH! GODBLESSYOU!<3

schenriyen
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Thank you so much for the video! God bless you!

homer
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Yes. He was already there as The Word, Only. But God, His Father Born Him into His own Person, and thats why He God had to Command Him Jesus to Be able to Lay down his and take it back again because now He- Jesus Became his Own Person. And NOW has Freewill over Himself.

johndempsey
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Thank you for this video. And i praise God in the name of Jesus for this video.

majinkratos
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The presenter is correct to state that this passage is talking about Wisdom and not Jesus. He is further correct to state that it is an example of personification. But what he fails to mention is that from the beginning of Christianity, church fathers and theologians have been interpreting this passage as applying to Jesus in some prophetic sense or otherwise. I guess they all must have been wrong.

True, wisdom is feminine. But what gender is Spirit? Come on, tell us ? Why is the Spirit called "IT." Apart from when referring to the Spirit as the helper/advocate, what gender is used?

And why do some Bibles break their own rules of Greek grammar and use the word "He " for the Spirit when it is clearly not so?
Could it be that Bible translations can be biased ? Another example of double standards?

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Then I was beside him as a master worker.

I was the one he was especially fond of day by day;
I rejoiced before him all the time;+
31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth,
And I was especially fond of the sons of men.

Elijah-dyxv
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just saw this and excellent vid brother! God bless! It really helped and so now I'm going to be super prepared next summer when those JW guys knock on the front door!

jessemathew
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why do people get mad? Yahweh has Wisdom, just like any of us; and Yahweh made His wisdom into flesh; that flesh was named Jesus.

healhands
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Then I was beside him as a master worker.+

I was the one he was especially fond of+day by day;
I rejoiced before him all the time;+
31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth,
And I was especially fond of the sons of men.*

Elijah-dyxv
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Proverbs 8 is about jesus
try to check luke 11:49 in the this verse wisdom of God was speaking but when but when you read mathews 23:34 you discover it's was jesus speaking
With this in mid you can't say its different people with the same mission
this is definitely must be one person

aisamwale
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Proverbs 8 is about Jesus, and I’m a Christian, the word “created” is simply a poor translation, and it rather should be rendered “possessed”

cristian_
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Shalom from Australia 🇦🇺 I have a couple of questions if you don't mind me asking? 1. If Yeshua is YHWH who was he praying too? 2. It says Yeshua was begotten not created means he is a God just not the most high Elohim YHWH so ate you saying he is equal to The most high Elohim YHWH? 3.If you say the Holy spirit isn't The most high Elohim YHWH 's will or moving force, then according to the Scriptures what is the holy Spirit male or female andcwhatvis his its name? Thankyou 🙏

karaokecentral
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5:43 Wow! A where have seen this tactic before?

pilgrimsprogress
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“Something similar is also read in Proverbs, of the personification of the Wisdom, who is the Christ: »The Lord created me as the beginning of his ways for his works. He established me before time was in the beginning, before he made the earth: even before he made the depths; before the fountains of water came forth: before the mountains were settled and before all hills, he begets me.« Here, the word »created« should not confuse us, since in the Hebrew text, there is no »created«, which is expressed with BARA, but »possessed«. For it is written: »ADONAI CANANI BRESITH DERCHO«, which in our language means: »The Lord possessed me at the beginning of his ways«. However, there is a great difference between »possession« and »creation«. Possession signifies that the Son has always been in the Father, and the Father in the Son. But creation is the beginning of a new state of that, which did not exist before.”
(Jerome - Letter 140)

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Nice video. I find your line of reasoning to be strange concerning pronouns. Sometimes neuter pronouns are used of the Holy Spirit but that doesn't mean He is not a person.
Also when did the orthodox Christian view of Proverbs 8 change??
For centuries it was applied to the Son of God and argued over by Trinitarians and Arians as to the translation of the word qanah.
I checked biblehub and all the commentaries of Barnes, Matthew Henry, Ellicott, Benson and others all acknowledge this passage is about Jesus as the early church fathers thought.
Where did you learn your opinion, I'd like to know so I can do more research on the topic.

azazelsgoat
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As u said it's possession not creation, weak translation

cellarphone
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He. God made him. He says created. But he means Made. Born from the Word. His Word which He Owned.

johndempsey
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Stay salty yeaaa!!! I like it I'm hit the subscriber bottom God Bess beloved

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