The Suicide of Red Mutualism

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[s.h.]

Hatred is my muse
-Murray Rothbard

Good video

[Plutophrenia]

So, you make two central arguments in the video. Some of what you say is inconsistent with your older video. You also make some cheap remarks that are shallow and don't deserve a retort.

1. "Collective Force is not a meaningful concept within Mutualism and therefore focus on it is a break w/ tradition".

This is false because Mutualism is not characterized by a rigid orthodoxy. It is a collection of different projects with some general connections. It is not inconsistent to investigate concepts within one project, or to find some more useful than others. It doesn't make someone less of a Mutualist to take primary inspiration from Warren, Tucker, or Proudhon. Modern Mutualists have the freedom to determine what is most useful and to build their own analyses using the intellectual heritage we have received over the past 200 years. No one is saying "collective force is the most important concept within Mutualism". This is a strawman, at best.

2. "Our idea on remuneration is more akin to Warren's Cost-Principle".

This is false because in "Old Anarchism and the New" you stated that the *workers* are of equal skill and ability, not the job, which you say in this video. It says the first five workers are performing a job of equal costliness to the workers, yet it doesn't say that for the sixth. What actually determined the productivity of each job was ambiguous in the video and was treated as a given. There was no way for me to judge what actually determined productivity of each job without injecting outside information. If commodities values are governed by necessary labor, and therefore that determines the productivity of each worker, then I am obviously advocating the Cost Principle here and you are not. No idea if this is intentional, but your point here looks slimy and gross, banking on the laziness of your audience to not check back on your original arguments.

Also, because Warren based his idea of cost on subjective stress, it is completely plausible that someone could be paid $10 or $20 for the same task. His advocacy was to change the mode of exchange from operating based on the fleecing to others towards one where people ensure each other goods and services at cost. What that cost was was to be determined by the individual, and was the way to encourage co-operation over combination. This, again, as I said in my own video, leads me to believe that Springtime of Nations is only trying to troll and does not have comprehensive knowledge on the subject.

[richierich]

Could you talk about how the mutualist inflationist banking model is just nonsense which is worst than the fractional reserve system, and how they worship the number 0 when it comes to interest rates while assuming a positive interest rate is automatically theft committed by the lender, but have never touched on the subject of negative interest rates?