Testing NEW Suspension while RIDING IN BACK OF A 5th Wheel!

Hey everyone, welcome back to another video. Today is an exciting day. We are doing something new and different while we’re in Elkhart, Indiana at open house… we are testing out Lippert’s new helix pin box and TCS suspension and we are riding side-by-side to hear and feel the differences when the fifth wheel was driving down the road

Also, we talk a little bit about the ABS from Lippert. This was just an awesome event where Lippert was able to rent out the Elkhart County Airport, so it was really awesome to do all this on a closed course


[jamesmccormick]

For this to be a true comparative test, it should've been the same trailer with the different suspension options.

[mattsmith]

Very impressive! Now you need to come up with a kit to retrofit existing, older suspension systems.

[micheldionne]

Great content. At this point I am wondering if air bags suspension would be even better. This units are heavy so floating on air like a class A would be event better. Self levelling to the current weight of the unit plus content, one could event get a reading of the current weight just by the amount of air needed to level off the trailer.

[stephenmarechek]

I hope Lippert has some certified welders now!!!

[amybooth]

Lol Matt you are definitely an entertainer. Love the helmet!

[sherriweber]

Hi Matt and Wil! Great content with this testing out this suspension. You can really tell the difference with or without the suspension. Thank all who helped to built this suspension. Thank you Matt and Wil for the video!

[timfrink]

Are they still doing crappy welds? Or is it still hit and miss as far as it's falling apart😢

[Vamanaswastika]

At first, when we saw Matt with the helmet, he reminded us of those “helmet kids “in the special school across the street from us.

We love you, Matt and Will all the way from 🇨🇦

[earlribaudo]

ABS is good, but you can do the same with your gain for your trailer brakes. I keep mine just so when I apply the brakes, the trailer applies first. Not so much where you wear your brakes out fast, but just enough that you will feel it. If you do have to stop fast, your trl brakes will apply first and keep you in a straight line. I always keep mine set that way and had to use the brakes to avoid an accident and never had the trl pass me. Drove truck for thirty years, and used the what they call the Johnson bar, the handle on the right side of the steering wheel. This applies brakes to the trl only. That also has saved me many times. So, if you keep you gain just a touch high, you will feel the difference.

[egreens-mësetARR]

Great video gentlemen thank you salutes

[lyfandeth]

With enough bubblewrap, even Matt can be carried safely. 😮

[mickeym]

Every upgrade adds weight. How much more does the pro frame weight than the standard frame?

[marychristopher]

I have to admit this was an awesome video - I’ve always been curious about the Richter scale value in our 5th wheel going down our less than stellar highways. After watching this it’s amazing they survive more than a couple of trips! So that said, I would like to see a video with the addition of the MORryde IS system. What a great marketing tool! Curious as to the difference in cost of the Dexter axles and associated components and the MORryde bolt on IS system if all new manufactured trailers came standard with IS. Would significantly increase the lifespan of trailers. Just a thought.

[jetdriver]

I’m happy to see the upgraded suspension which is LONG overdue.

And the upgraded frame. The problem that remains though is no one in the industry has yet been willing to tell us why we have had all the frame failures in both 5th wheels and travel trailers. Since they won’t tell us why the failures are happening (beyond blaming owners) we have no idea whether or not any of this will solve it. I strongly suspect the new frame will and I see it as a tacit admission that Lippert’s frames have been under designed and under built and that’s why the failures have been happening.

PS Matt being funny is fine. But the helmet is just being a clown.

[htschultz]

Cool video. I'd love to see something a little more scientific (ideally same tow vehicle, same 5th wheel with different suspensions--I realize that would be extremely difficult), same exact drive path, some sort of objective measurement tool (perhaps a seismometer?), etc. Failing that, how about something comparing standard 6k empty tandem axle travel trailers with similar Goodyear tires? One with standard leaf springs; one with leaf springs but enhanced with a decent equalizer (ie, CRE3000 or AllTrek4000); one with a Dexter Torflex torsion suspension; one with Curt independent suspension (ie, Nobo Beast mode or similar). That would be truly interesting!

[asull]

Excellent video. You’re hereby known as Matt from State Farm

[alfie]

Questions: I have 2025 3100z Brinkley with helix box but not new suspension. Can this be added at Lippert as my frame is not the new one with wider flanges? Can the alignment be adjusted ? May 3 month old axles be used or are new ones for the new suspension required? Are disc brakes an option if I did this as a retrofit? What ballpark of costs are wee looking at? Thanks

[markswishereatsstuff]

It's amazing that these things don't fall apart after a thousand miles. Worse than any boat going along in medium chop.

[DanGinney]

Finally an automotive style suspension. Makes sense!

[RonaldB]

How can a consumer find out what RV manufacturers use this upgraded frame and suspension products?