Talk Heathen 07.33 Afterlife, Nihilism, and Veganism

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Today’s episode of the Talk Heathen, Richard Gilliver joins ObjectivelyDan to take on death, the afterlife ... .and veganism???

00:00 Intro
06:33 Cas-(CA) | Hoping For An Afterlife
27:20 Tymm-WA | Nihilism Isn't A Negative
42:39 Julie-NM | Veganism Reduces Violence
54:27 Brandon-FL | Why Aren't YOU Vegan?
1:25:22 Herbert-AR | The Devil’s Deceitful Deception

Cas in Canada asking what our view is on death and the afterlife. While it can be comforting to hope our loved ones continue on somewhere else, we don’t believe in any afterlife. That may sound sad, but it gives a sense of beauty to this world. Hoping for an afterlife isn’t necessarily detrimental. Come at the idea pragmatically and realize this is the only life we know we get.

Tymm in WA thinks nihilism isn’t about meaninglessness but more about living your life with no expectation of afterlives. There are several interpretations of nihilism. We tend to agree with Nietzsche’s take, life is meaningless so we need to make our own meaning. People need to toss the idea that nihilists just think “woe is me”.

Julie in NM thinks veganism can reduce violence in the world if we didn’t normalize violence towards animals. It’s a nice idea to reduce violence overall but not sure if this would work globally. There are religious groups that denounce violence but still eat meat.
Brandon in FL sees a parallel in theists and meat eaters, finding people just fall on excuses to justify what they believe. We don’t see any moral imperative to being vegan. If vegans and meat eaters worked together to change the way we approach the meat industry.

Herbert in AR claims the devil is deceiving us and the “big lie” is the nature of our realm, solar system, and who created what. Hoo boy.. Now we live on the moon and telescopes show a reflection back to us. The “elites” know this, NASA is lying, and amazon does space deliveries?? This is pure speculation, we’d need evidence for that claim.

Thank you for tuning in to your community! This week's Talk Heathen To Me prompt is: Headline a bible story….using Florida man.

#religion #debate #ethics

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After listening to Herbert, I'm now singing "We all live in a crater on the Moon" to the tune of Yellow Submarine...

HerringElwood
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Small animals get killed when a tractor drives through, to harvest the crops. You are also killing the plants when you eat them. You have to consume living things to survive. That's just how it is.

chrystaljennings
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Brandon is one of those vegans that live in a fantasy world.

the_eaglefan
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@ 1:08:24
Really? 🤦‍♂️
Brandon has such a high opinion of his "humanity" that he imposed his will upon a spider, and feels virtuous about it. 🤦‍♂️

He carried said spider on a jet airliner, probably to a completely foreign ecosystem for said spider.

Why? 🤦‍♂️

That small area in the airport might have been the pinnacle of success to said spider.
WTF is Brandon thinking?

That spider may have been at the top of his/her local food chain. 😖

Brandon "saved" this fellow creature by releasing it into an unfamiliar ecosystem.

It could be a female spider who is preparing to lay a few dozen eggs today. 🥴

Way to go, Brandon!

We live in interesting times.

onepunch
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01:43:05 _"The moon is a.."_

Vampire. This was established in 1995 by Doctor Corgan.

BaronVonQuiply
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Circa 50:00
AA is Christian dominated, NA changes it to spiritual .. so your "Higher Power" can be "Hal Jordans Power Ring"

BelRigh
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Herbert, the Moon looks wavy through the magnification of a telescope because turbulence in our atmosphere gets magnified too. Glad I could clear that up for you.

Goettel
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What about a dirt dauber that's hauling off a huge spider that was your spider friend for weeks in your kitchen? It's a chin scratcher.

ScottyOrange
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If you define violence as killing animals for food, then not killing them will reduce violence.

Ok…. so what?

When it’s defined in this way, then I am not against violence.

KBosch-xput
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If you want to reduce meat consumption, the key is to create better plant-based food that is easy to make and cheaper to buy.

Never-mind
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I sure hope Herbert is a troll. Otherwise I hope somebody is able to care for him and make sure he’s okay.

Murrshack
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I disagree with the statement that if you are not willing to go live and back up your claim you are not convinced that your claim is true. Some people are not able to argue for a true claim.

billmorash
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Apparently I need to go buy weed in AR.

ospreymoonstone
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Does anyone understand wtf Herbert was getting at? Because I'm lost.

Aaron-sqfm
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On a more positive note, Herbert can produce a complete sentence, so he can't be totally nuts. But, I do hope he's a damn troll.

michaelscott
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I really have trouble keeping callers like Herbert on the line. He's either trolling, or he's mentally ill. Either way, it's a waste of time listening to his dribble.

easterlake
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Poor Richard, getting tackled by Dan like that... what a colleague!

Sebastien_from_Canada
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“It’s in the word planet, ‘plain it’”

Well I’m convinced

roberthamilton
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01:26:54 _"We all live in a crater on the moon"_

Sorry, the correct lyrics are _"We all live in a yellow submarine"_ . Yellow Submarine. Better luck next time.

BaronVonQuiply
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Florida Man gets so high. He hears a donkey talk

Alferos
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