FSR 4 VS FSR 3 - Why Is AMD Hiding It?

I compare FSR 3, FSR 4 and DLSS and share my thoughts on Radeon's absence at CES and overall events so far.

00:00 FSR 3 vs FSR 4 vs DLSS
04:11 Final Thoughts

#fsr #amd #radeon

[slcgtx]

I have a Nvidia gpu, but I also tried XeSS. XeSS really does look good, and better than FSR 3. FSR 4 look REALLY GOOD. Great job AMD.

[HansRamoray]

AMD always brings their technology, like FSR, to all GPUs, and from a gamer’s point of view, that’s awesome. However, as you mentioned, to be more competitive, they sometimes need to make it exclusive and focus development on optimizing it for their own GPUs. Hopefully, AMD makes a strong comeback soon, and we see a competitive market again.

[BUDA]

most of the FSR 3 artifacts are not present in XeSS running on the same old GPUs so there is still room for improvement on FSR 3.x, even if FSR 4 is exclusive, I hope they don't abandon a compatible mode, and keep improving, just a good temporal denoiser like XeSS will be miles better than we have now

[pedropierre]

My guess? It’s because it will be truly available until 2026 like FSR3

[Godmode_ON]

My problem with MFG is that it's only useful with 240hz or higher panels and it's basically the only improvement the 5000 series has over 4000, except for maybe a slight non-FG power improvement.

They didn't do much to help games hit 60 fps pre-FG, which is the real struggle with modern games. Like what's the point of MFG if a 5070 can't hit 60 fps with path tracing and/or is VRAM constrained? Sure it's great for 5090s, but the majority of people can't and shouldn't buy 2000$ GPUs.

Don't forget 4x FG has been possible with LSFG for a long time now and as I said, is useless if you can't hit more than 60 fps without it or have a monitor with 144hz or less. That said, reflex 2 was by far the most impressive and interesting part of Nvidia's presentation and it's not getting that much coverage unfortunately.

[lastenemy]

Youre right with the features and softwares. I guess we dont have to hate nvidia for their choices regarding mfg and dlss. But its sad to see that newer games arent running that smooth anymore cuz of the latency. Also there isnt any noticable upgrades over the last gens anymore. Only the flagship models are really profiting of these launches. I hope game developers prefer optimising over blaming again especially AAA titles. Maybe we also hit a wall in this technology. Only time will tell.

[Chuck]

in 3-4 days will be the "big announcement", I just hope a really agressive price to compete

[RJTHEGAME]

Looks great & especially AMD made the right choice in choosing performance mode FSR to show it off

Since that's terrible imo on FSR 2 & 3

Frank Azor confirmed they waited for Nvidias show to be over and will be talking about FSR 4 in the coming weeks btw

[MichalChojnowski]

We need to see how it performs in other games - PSSR was good too on previews before launch, but turned out often more of a flop. I just hope FSR4 (upscaler) being good and even see it the most crucial feature of upcoming Radeons. It's simply because we buy GPUs to play games in prettier graphics and higher fps. Pretty graphics is nowadays ray tracing and higher fps uses help of upscaling. Radeons' problem for now is being worse than competition at both.

[Shoxpyre]

As a lifelong Nvidia only user, I now believe AMD needs to play Nvidia's game. FSR 4 looks stunning imo, they should keep it and other technologies exclusive just like Nvidia unless Nvidia changes their tune with theirs. Fair is fair. I am sad to admit it Nvidia's exploitativeness is getting hard to excuse at this point, hoping AMD smashes this one out of the park, time for some competition

[ohenry]

I believe it's safe to say now that in terms of Graphics quality FSR 4 is there already with DLSS, now the fun part is the Ray Tracing, if AMD could juice up a descent performance on this department without having to break your wallet by just buying a mid tier AMD Card, then thats a game changer.
And another Thing, Radeon 7000 do have BF16 and Ray Tracing Cores, and the newer cards only has an improve Ray Tracing and that's it, So I strongly believed that Radeon 7000 series can use FSR 4.

[wanshurst]

i aimed to go with the 5080 but man the 9070XT looks really really interessting....

[zajebanosaurus]

the problem is with FG and this new technologies is that developers build their games with use of those features in mind. Soon we will see games that must use FG even if I dont want to use it. The clear example to that is that new games you cant play without DLSS/FSR because the native res with TAA looks 3x worse and runs 3x worse

[BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

I think that they touted all previous versions of FSR so heavily and they all turned out to be promising but ultimately underwhelming. In some cases, AWFUL. So they are being careful this time and don't want to over-promise and under-deliver again.

How serendipitous that this time they have something amazing on their hands

[someball.]

So FSR 4 might be keeping up with the old DLSS models, but the new Transformer DLSS models will still come out on top? A shame

[shutterplaygame]

If FSR4 DOES complete with DLSS4 with that lunch price of 9070XT then its the death of nvidia

[SandTiger]

They said why yesterday. Because they wanted to see what their competitors had. I think it was PCWorld who had and interview with them yesterday.

[spd-vo]

honestly I'm done chasing this ai stuff; nvidia charges way too much for cards with tiny vram buffers, and amd's best card doesn't even get fsr 4. If I don't get enough frames, I'll just live with it.

[張彥暉-vp]

Because those "people" who are upset about DLSS/FSR/(upscaling or fg in general) aren't real.
They are just youtube commentator who complain about everything.

[PCgamingbenchmarktime]

Without watching the video yet, they were obviously sandbagging Nvidia, they wanted to see what nvidia would to so they could come out swinging. They will announce it all at once properly, hopefully sometime soon. 9070xt between $479-$499 that's over 20% ahead in raster with more vram and about on par with the 5070 in RT, and a big improvement with Fsr, i think they're coming out swinging and want to do it properly with all the attention on them. Just my thoughts lol ok now time to watch this video 😊