Hauling Giant Big Wall Bags up El Capitan

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Hauling can be a nightmare, or just a chore depending how you do it and if you stay organized. Keep it simple applies here as well. Jumping straight to a 2:1 or worse a 3:1 (which needs a redirect) may not give you much advantage but add 2x or 3x the amount of work to get the bag up. Hauling is also an indicator that your partner rope is fixed and ready to ascend. It's essential to haul and dock the bags on the side of the anchor the bag is GOING, not coming from. Access to your stuff is easier if you dock the bag as high as you can instead of it hanging 15 feet below you.

00:00 Hauling Can Suck, or Not
03:32 Jeremiah's Demo
17:02 Ryan's Demo
39:56 2:1 System
44:00 3:1 System
45:47 Final Thoughts
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Questions:
1) do you pull up the extra lead rope like on a normal multipitch or do you leave it hanging? I've heard a lot of people say it's better to pull up all the lead line first, but I'm not really sure why that is.

2) with regards to the haul line, I've been practicing using bags. When I flake the rope into a bag it's upside down, and if the leader were to blast off the haul line would be coming from the bottom of the bag and inevitably cause a clusterfuck. My solution has been to just flake the haul line onto my lap/my daisy, then open the haul device and feed the rope backwards through the haul device into the bag, after which it is now correctly oriented. Does putting the haul rope through a sling instead solve this problem?

On MP I've heard numerous experienced wall climbers say using bags is the best solution, but this seems to require flaking the haul line twice. Do you always have to flake the haul line twice, or does flaking into a sling mean you only have to do this once?

RickyHarline
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I am an old guy, and I don't climb walls or cliffs, but I am a man that likes to hunt in the mountains, and hauling something heavy (like a deer or elk) up a mountainside is always on my mind. So, that makes videos like yours very interesting to me. I have studied how emergency responders haul injured victims in high-angle or vertical rescues too. You all have sure made my work easier.

wbymag
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as a climber with zero big wall experience, and 3 multipitch route sends to my name, this is definitely vital information that I will use every day for the rest of my life.

olivierlaborde
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I love this series SO much. My ultimate goal is big walling and this has been so comprehensive and much easier than pulling from a ton of different resources.

Took a friend out for her first ever climb yesterday and I was impressed with how much she already knew—she spent all night watching videos on this channel so she’d feel comfortable with the gear. Keep it up guys!

zcoombs
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I have never big walled and probably never will but I'm fascinated by learning about all the complexities. I watch every one of these videos!

tydigame
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One thing that works really nice for not "pushing pushing down the 2:1 hauler" on Miah's system (41:41) is clipping a jug of water to the croll or basic or whatever is biting the rope up in the 2:1. The weight does the trick beautifuly.

irakperez
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Such an incredible resource. Y’all are an amazing part of the climbing community!

williambarrett
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Love this series! Super informative and concise. Always looking forward to the next video.

cainclimbs
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These videos are great! Have you mentioned anywhere a break down of your failed big walls? I know you've mentioned in passing in other videos, things like weather, but it'd be great to have a video where one by one you just go through what went wrong so we can learn from it

perplexedon
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Kick A$$ series guys. Watch every one of them. Love the contrast with you and Jeremiah's methodology is great!!

MAVNX
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love the a-z content. its great to see this all as we build our outdoor skillset

claytonromero
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Hey Ryan,
as much as I love your passion about walkie talkies and the way you present Rocky Talkie to us, I hate the fact that I cannot use (or even buy) them in Europe. They are forbidden due to the frequencies they use.
Can you maybe make the company come up with a solution for Europe or at least find someone who can recommend something similar for the European market.
Thank you for all your great work!

LorenzBaum
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I'm definitely finding it interesting seeing the differences and similarities between big walling and technical rescue

zachbrenner
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I think this series is great I never thought big walls were ever something I would be into or could do but these videos make me want to. Definitely helps understand how its done and take away fear.

Spaceman
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At 45:20 you mentioned it was a 5:1 system but it is two 3:1 in series, one 3:1 hauling on another and that makes it a horrendous bad 9:1. Also if you are where you need to substitute pulleys with carabiners put the pulleys closest to the hauler in the system

madshvid
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My brother got a pair of rocky-talkies for us to use and they are SUPER BAD ASS! YOU NEED THEM TOO!

sethgilbertson
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I was just thinking its really a May Pole down for the pig tether. Maypoles twist, Barber poles just swirl around one way. The climbing world got the wrong term going!

beingaware
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Love the A-Z as someone that wants to go tall! Love everything so far, please keep it up!🤙

atraupalin
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Have you pull or drop-tested something like that tiny haul loop extension? Curious about 1. how much force would actually be yanking you off the wall; 2.whether that little loop would reliably break before your harness haul loop; 3. If there is an "ideal" cord diameter to use for that application. Thanks for another great video!

jeffrobinson
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Sin cé you are asking for comments. I watch these out of interest. I am a climber who has no interest in doing a big wall but cool to see everything that goes into it.

markchristiansen