Wingspan Review - Flock and Roll

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[isaacthimbleby]

Minor rules error at 7:08. You do not get a point for every bird on your board - you do however get the points written on each bird (which is mentioned separately slightly later).

[Coswagrigus]

This is the BEST negative review I’ve ever seen. While Quinns clearly doesn’t like the game, he’s still very kind and points to what makes the game lovely. Very open with his subjective feeling of the game, he never calls it objectively bad. Hats off boys, great review

[Fudgeemonkee]

"Your mother's a liar, your world is crumbling"
- another classic SHUX quote that should go down in the annals of history!

[nobodywantsthethimble]

I appreciate how even if SUSD doesn’t like a game, the reviews still feel rather glowing. Their love of the hobby just shines through.
I really enjoy this game, though I’ve only played the solo variant so far. It was one that I was really hoping to teach my in-laws, but as they are a bit older, they don’t like games with a lot of reading involved, and with almost every card doing something different (and with such small print), this would be an automatic pass for them. Which is a shame, since this game is targeted directly at them with big, neon crosshairs.

[contra]

This is a masterful review. I own Wingspan and played many times, usually enjoying it. But there was always something beneath the surface that was gnawing at me. You've managed to dissect it completely, picking up all the points that annoyed me before I realised that they did. While at the same time explaining the rules and gameplay clearly within a couple of minutes, and showing what's to like or dislike about the game. Work of genius this review.

[richardmoore]

Quinns: *Gives a well thought out review*

My Brain for the entire review: "heh heh, Bird Girth"

[Gnarrkhaz]

I love how hype doesn't seem to affect SU&SD if the gameplay speaks another language, which is exactly what you want from a review show.

[poilboiler]

You left out the best part of the Maribu Stork, how it protects its legs from sunburn by crapping on them. We can all learn from its majestic example.

[sanfranfan]

After 2 minutes of front loaded praise: "You almost certainly think this is going to be a glowing review" LOL not likely.

[Cameronwatt]

In my house we call it Terraforming marsh.

[Joshua_Tymchyn]

My mother and aunt (who are in their late 50's) have not only played and enjoyed this game, but they've gone through two copies of the score pad already and show no signs of stopping. This is a fantastic review and I agree with a lot of the points brought up, but it can definitely be an entry game depending on the person you try to introduce it to.

[AzraelCC]

Great review and a delightful conclusion. I have only one criticism: where is worm Matt and why isn't there a skit involving worm Matt being eaten by a bird?

[z-beeblebrox]

I love that one of Quinns's worst birds is an insect

[ericfrancis]

That's a fair take. Myself, I like Wingspan quite a bit and can happily ignore some of the shortcomings that gave Quinns kittens (like the disconnect with the theme). But I respect his reasoning and, as always, appreciate the thought and time that go into SUSD reviews.

[andywlasniewski]

I find the puzzle in Wingspan is to find out how to generate points in every turn. Food isn't (usually) worth points, but can I generate eggs, or tuck cards, or cache food while I'm getting it? There are a finite number of turns in the game, so how can I accomplish as much as possible with each turn? If you play a turn to just get food, or just lay eggs, or just gain cards it does seem boring. And yes, you don't always get the cards you need, but adapting to what's available is the main part of the game. The European Expansion helps a ton with variety and depth. Wingspan was my family's gateway game because we are birdwatchers. It has led us into the hobby from a place of obliviousness, and if that's all it accomplished it would be a great game.

[acerumble]

I believe that others have mentioned in various ways, but I heartily appreciate Quinns' ability to project enthusiasm and wonder for a game that he himself may not care for if he sees value in it for others. That level of empathy is the mark of a high-functioning human being

[maxranch]

There are not many who teaches you excited a game that they dont love :D

[jasonmatthews]

I have been watching a TON of reviews during this Covid-19 time. Yours was one of the finest, well thought out reviews I have seen. I don't really agree with the conclusion. I think its because I don't really worry about winning so much as I enjoy building my Avian-egg-maximizinator. But I followed your logic all the way through, and agree with the points individually, but not in their sum. Thank you for the deep analysis.

[collin]

You succinctly explained my feeling of the game, the RNG feels bad in this game. I like RNG in a game like Nemesis, because even if you're on the bad end at least you're part of a story. Wingspan is a beautiful game but I get more enjoyment in looking at the cards and feeling the paper quality of the manual than the game itself. Highly highly recommend Race for the Galaxy as well.

[Squiddy]

Watched some SUSD videos, stopped to unbox and play the copy of Wingspan that arrived earlier today, sit back down to find this video had released while I was gone.
I feel _personally_ attacked.