Lutheran America | Nations of America

The Upper Midwest is a region of the United States often overlooked, but recognized as something culturally all its own, even if not to the same degree as the Baptist American Southeast discussed in our Baptist America is Inevitable video. The Midwest as a whole is defined by a prominent German American and Scandinavian American ethnic population, with the Lutheran faith having a strong presence across the entire region, and dominance within the Upper Midwest especially, and even reaching across Canada into the Prairie Provinces. This predominantly Germanic, Upper Mid-Western, and largely Lutheran nation is but one of many American Nations which occupy the countries of the United States, Canada, and Mexico in North America. So of the many Nations of America, is a Lutheran America inevitable? Will Lutheran America ever seek secession or independence from the United States or break away if the US collapses and Balkanizes? And would Lutheran America annex these sympathetic regions of Canada if the Canadians suffer from the effects of a US collapse as well? In today's geopolitics video, we'll explain the American nation of Lutheran America, and what its borders of the future might hold.

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0:00 Intro

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[MonsieurDean]

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[AYANOfficial]

I was born in Minnesota, the Lutheran capital of America. However, I was born a Catholic; and didn’t convert to Lutheranism until a while back. However, I am now more proud than ever to be from the heart of Lutheran America!

[gerrardthemagnificent]

Low-key thought he was gonna say, "but hey, don't let that stop you from making Lutheran America now" 😂
Inshaluther, it shall be done

[CullodenCowboy]

As a southerner that lived in the upper Midwest for a time, I didn't feel that Lutheranism held anywhere near as much cultural and political power there as Baptists do in the south. I knew far more atheists than Lutherans or even other Christians. I was truly shocked by how much of the people around me up there were aggressively atheist and even anti-Christian. I'm not saying this as a sob story or anything, but just as an observation. I would be surprised if that region united around any religious belief.

[PaulShattter]

I'm a Lutheran (Lutheran church Missouri synod specifically), and my thoughts are that that it is unlikely for a Lutheran state to emerge in America. That is unless the LCMS and ELCA churches combine, which I highly doubt will happen, as in the LCMS churches we are taught that ELCA members are really not even Lutheran, and I'm willing to bet it's the same in ELCA churches. Though one thing I can say is that ELCA churches are loosing members at a much higher rate than LCMS churches, so if the Lutheran america did happen, it would be likely for it to have a majority LCMS population, with the ELCA either assimilating into the LCMS, or becoming a Democratic vs Republican style rivalry that we have in the USA today.

[thorgot]

There was a small but significant group of Norwegian Lutherans that settled in the Gulf Coast, like New Orleans and Pensacola. Basically, those Nords that worked on boats, fished, sailed, or anything to do with water settled on the Gulf Coast with warmer waters.

[James-epbx]

I know as a Lutheran(LCMS I think) the church generally seems encourages the separation of church and state. The catechism I got actively teaches that God gave rulers the duty of looking out for the populace`a physical needs, and the clergy the duty to care for their spiritual needs

[georgebernard]

I’m Lutheran (ELCA) though my mother was raised LCMS Lutheran and my dad was raised Catholic. One thing I’ve learned recently is that the LCMS wasn’t always as conservative as it is today. It used to have a sizable moderate wing but they were pushed out in the midst of Seminex, and a small portion of the LCMS denomination splitted and joined the ALC and LCA to form the ELCA

[thorpeaaron]

Mr. Z's next video is Catholic America inevitable? As a somewhat practicing Catholic that would be a great video just saying.

[KlynerKaiOffical]

I can’t wait to see a completed map of all these religious factions!

[senatethewinstonchurchill]

I read "Lithuanian america"
That is also a video suggestion I want to hear about Lithuanian america

Edit: so it appears this comment has been hearted.
That means that we could be getting a Lithuanian america video

[SerialDesignationG]

Mormon America, Baptist America, Lutheran America - dang, I now want to see all these Americas on a single map. That would probably be best for when you've finished up this little mini-series of yours. What other Americas do you have in mind? Catholic America? Islamic America?

[no]

As a Lutheran from northern Europe, I am praying for those in USA.

[brandonbeilbymcleod]

As a Canadian who lives in Manitoba this is the first time I’ve even heard of Lutheranism. Though my ancestry at least European side can be tracked back to Scandinavia so it is kind of interesting to learn of the history of that

[noahtylerpritchett]

Baptists and Methodists generally have ancestry from the British isles.
Lutherans with Germany, and Scandinavia.
So you can generally guess an American's ethnic ancestry by their religion.

[NubusAugustus]

As a Norwegian Lutheran from California I appreciate that you covered Lutheran America.

[KerbalProductions]

As a catholic, I support this. The Lutheran church has maintained faith in God. It’s time to convert the atheists to Lutheranism.

[gagegarlinghouse]

Hi Mr. Z,

Great video overall, but, as a Lutheran, I do have a few critiques to a comment earlier in the video. Namely, the points about Luther's theology. While Luther did believe in the priesthood of all believers, he also strongly supported a divinely instituted Pastoral office.

The idea that early Lutherans wanted a more decentralized church is historically false, and is more a political reality. In Scandinavia, Lutheranism remained and still remains centralized. In Germany, the desire was for their to be bishops, but because of political situations, Superintendents were established to fill the same role. Philip Melancthon, the man who wrote several of the Lutheran Confessions, actually said the Lutherans would except the Pope as head of the Church, if he admitted it was by human right, and that he was equal to other clergy.

Finally, your point that Luther advocated for a more personal interpretation of Scripture is partly true. He did believe that each Christian should read the Word of God themselves, and be able to understand. However, he did not favor novelty. That's why he affirmed the creeds, affirmed the confessions, and used the Fathers and other Christians so liberally. He believed that orthodoxy was important, not novelty. So your kinda true, but not really.

I hope this serves as an honest critique of some of the theological points you mentioned. Again, I think the rest of the video was well done, these just needed clarification.

Beat wishes.

[Yells_at_Cloud]

I read that as Lithuanian America and was super confused.

[mitchjervis]

0:20 - Very subtle critique of Whatifalthist's 9 Nations of America.