#28 | Was It Personal Between Tony Fernandes & Idris Jala?

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Tan Sri Tony Fernandes is the co-founder of AirAsia and the Group CEO of the Capital A Group.

This week, we had the privilege of getting Idris’ old aviation rival in to clear the air about their rivalry — was it personal or professional?

Hear how he got his passion for people, knowledge and business came from his parents.

Other key topics discussed?

1. Malaysia’s education system
2. Tribalism and politicisation of race in Malaysia
3. AirAsia’s road out of PN17
4. The need for GST
5. An alternative to the NEP
6. Leading with transparency
7. Learnings from the next generation

PS. We found out that Gen Zs and Gen Alpha know him as a TikToker and not as an entrepreneur!

Give him a follow:
TikTok: @tonyfernandesairasia
IG: @tonyfernandes

Dato Sri Idris Jala is a former minister (ranked by Bloomberg in 2014 as the top 10 most influential policy makers in the world) and Chairman of PEMANDU Associates and Heineken Malaysia, as well as Co-Chairman of Sunway Group.

Leon Jala is a pastor at HTBB Church where he serves as the Director of Content and Co-head of Creative. He is also a Board Member of PEMANDU Associates where serves as Interim Chair.

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“We waste a lot of time on race and religion, it’s so unproductive”. This is so true!

ireumiobseum
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One of the best discussions, if not the best, between two best Malaysian sons ever. 👍👍👍

ruralparadise
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I wish Leon would invite our PM to come to this podcast with Idris and Tony, I believe many good things would be out of this country 🙏

singweeyek
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Let go Leon!!!🎉 Kudos to Tan Sri & Dato Sri for doing this. Empowering the next generation 🎉

MusangKingChannel
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Leon is the most intelligent sounding young man that i have seen online for a while. So, well done. I did not know of his existence until I saw this interview. As for Tony. My successful malaysian former schoolmates hate him. Listening to him in this interview just made me wonder if it is because they are envious of his successes and the way he has lived his life fully. I wont judge him. I appreciate his authenticity.

nolanlim
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Malaysians are really blessed to have you sirs. There's so much for us to learn from you all.

blackzoohop
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The amount of experience shared in this conversation is priceless!!! Combined experience of more than 100 years on the table. I listened every second of this.

soongalfred
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33:30 Tony: "more difficult was my ego."

Very honest and truthful assessment of oneself, no wonder he is successful

kuankuan
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Such class. What a distinguished men right here.

BazliAkmal
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This is my first time watching this podcast and I thoroughly enjoyed it and learnt so much wisdom about life’s challenges from this podcast from two true Malaysian patriots. I love Tony’s transparency, Idris’ pragmatism and Leon’s clarity and confidence. Well done and Tq so much for doing this series of podcast👍👏

keehinglam
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This is my first time really enjoy watching podcasts. 😂. So much information and enjoy all the story.👍🏻😊

ThePenan
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Good moderation and questions. Two Titans - TS Tony and DS Idris showed candor and camaraderie that is much needed in corporate circles. Probably one of the better Malaysian exchange between leaders of industry...

rarunasalam
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Best podcast ~ Much Thanks All!👍👍👍👍☺️.

TheGracehew
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Thank you for making my 1 hour commute enjoyable. Since Dato Sri is into farming nowadays, can we have a short discussion on issues on why Malaysia agricultural industry is still underdeveloped, making us a net importer of food supply, is it a good or bad thing?

gigibellakatdid
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One of the best interviews I have listened to.

. I can relate to some of the challenges Tony faced in his corporate life. Thanks Tony. And Idris, you too I admire. Had followed yr corporate life closely. Great interview guys..

lawrencepereira
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Really enjoyed listening to these 2 giants in the aviation industry! Their wisdom, experience, rise & fall, humility! Leon Jala, u r amazing

judylam
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Awesome podcast by Leon in bringing two great but humble leaders in the aviation industry. A lot of constructive views were sighted on entrepreneurial leadership in running corporate organisations in line with accountability and good governance.

devarajujoseph
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my new favourite podcast. Leon's line of questions are so refreshing

izzharaiman
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What an amazing episode. Just eye opening yet confirmational. Thank you, Leon.

production
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So so good. Thank you Leon, Idris and Tony!!

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