Maybe quit doing this?

This could cause issues! In this video I talk with you about what happens when you lower your pulling weight on your compound bow by backing out the limbs. There's a lot of "cause and affect" that happens.

[sdr]

Holy cow John. I took my target bow from 54lbs to its max of 60 today and I felt the difference. Less vibration and more consistency. Thanks for making this video.

[jonse]

Nice video. Everyone should own a press and draw board to better understand how their bow works and how to work on it

[ericperry]

much appreciated when a expert bow mechanic and world caliber archer shares knowledge !!!! CHEERS BROTHER

[MillerArchery]

These are great details to know about when backing out your bolts. I backed mine out to get more reps in for the summer. turning them back in 2 months out from hunting so I can ensure everything is dialed in 100%.

[PoeOutdoors]

Anything changes that come from backing limb bolts out can easily be fixed with mod adjustments/swaps, string/cable twists, etc. Especially when you consider all of the aftermarket cable stops on the market for several bow brands.

[ThePopypete]

Thank you SO MUCH .I'm just starting my research about getting BACK into Archery after a 30 year lay off because of shoulder problems . Boy things have changed a LOT .😅😅

[PersonalBestOutdoors]

Axle to axle is longer when backing the Limb bolts out? No... brace height increases, and ATA becomes shorter. Greater brace height would also net a reduction in speed.

[markkahler]

John, asking this question as you are talking about accuracy. Maybe this would be a video idea for you in the future..."When twisting your cables, how much does each twist add to the bows draw lenght? Does 1 twist equal 1/32 or 1/16?" I find that twisting cables is almost absolutely neccessay to find that perfect draw lengh but i struggle to know how much is needed. Hoping you may add your insight. Thank you and keep the videos coming!

[ShaneWilliamson]

The ATA would of been shorter when you let the limb bolts out not longer

[Bluesplayer]

Sweet that you have yhe deluxe reverb in the shop. I have the same amp... another killer in the dojo 🤙

[dewboy]

You are comparing apples to apples IF you reduce the draw length after reducing the weight in order to maintain your correct draw length. In other words, the bow with the backed out limbs is going to be slower, mainly due to the fact that it has a longer Brace Height. If you do not correct the draw length after backing down the limbs, it is not an apples to apples comparison because the do not have the same draw length!

[wilmerdecontie]

I don't know a better person that knows bows better than John Dudley !!

[giveerhelloutdoors]

Im not expert AT ALL. But that’s exactly how I figured out how much I could draw without dying over time. Sat on my ass, drew, shot. Turned it up. Sat, drew, shot. Very good technique to figure out if you are capable. Takes way more strength on your butt.

[slippystevie]

My local shot had me actually change to a longer draw. I know weird but hear me out. I’m 6’2” and went from 30” 77# to 30.5 maxed V3 to 30.5 73# and gained speed and accuracy. Correct draw length makes a world of difference whether you go longer and or shorter. Speed kills but accuracy slays!

[kveritas]

So, this video is complete opinion and proves nothing. Why? You didn’t show us the actual specs of the bow prior to turning out the limb bolts. You didn’t show us what the actual draw weight was before and after turning out the limb bolts. And you took half a turn less out of one limb. There is no way you changed brace by a half inch with just 10lb. As an example, just checked my Hoyt RX8. 2.5 turns out brings it from 70 to 62. Both brace and ATA changed less than a 1/16”.

If you really want to prove your point, redo the video. Show the DW, brace, ATA, and measured DL before taking turns out. Take equal number of turns out, and then show DW, brace, ATA and DL. My guess is you won’t be even close to the changes you have in this video. If for some reason you do, then it just shows that PSEs are horribly inefficient.

[brianfletcher]

Great video as always.. really like that bow

[bbmas]

So John, aside from maybe correcting actual draw length with the mods, do you recommend first putting the bow back to spec ( ATA and brace) as much as possible with cable/string twists. I realise that if you drop 10lb there's probably only so much you can do but should you at least get it back in the ball park and will that or will that not help preserve things like valley, back wall feel etc?

[raymondjones]

Mathews has the patent on the Switch weight modules that keeps the limbs bottomed out for efficiency at 60 65 70 75 and 80lbs that has different size humps in the modules to apply different pressures on the control cables for poundages without dealing with different limb options just another innovation that is protected by a patent the Mathews has once again.

[ross]

Increasing brace height generally reduces speed which would counter the increase in speed from the added draw length. Is the string actually more taut on a straight 60 lb bow than the string from a 70 lb bow backed down to 60 lbs? Isn't tautness/tension dependent on let-off/holding weight; i.e. 15% (85% let-off) of 60 lbs = 9 lbs in either case?

[FredFunk-yqjl]

So would I get more accuracy and faster arrow speed with a 50 pound cams on a Mathews bow or having a 60 mod backing it down to 55?