How One Small Detail Changes EVERYTHING in The Nightmare Before Christmas (Disney)

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So there's something I haven't heard anyone else talk about before in regards to the Nightmare Before Christmas... Something lots of people have overlooked for YEARS - myself included! There's a lot to cover, so hold on tight!

For starters, did you know there’s a book? (Well, a poem, really, and you probably did) but anyway, we’re gonna have a look… I mean over-analyze it to death and beyond! (It's animated, so you'll have some cool things to look at and I promise it's gonna be a treat!) Also, did you know that our beloved “Booonneee Daddddy” Jack Skellington could really be a, welp… Bone Daddy? Oh yes. We uncover this and so many little forgotten lore gems and secrets in this spooky, creepy and festive video! Just how different are Tim Burton's and Henry Selick's (and crew's) versions of this Halloween/Christmas/Timeless classic stop-motion tale? Let's find out in a book vs movie of sorts! Also on our nerdy itinerary: picking apart the magic of Halloween Town (or Halloweenland, if you prefer) to see just what makes it tick (or, not tick, as it were). So, bring some candy and snacks and join me on this Halloween-and-Christmastime Easter-Egg hunt!

"Dark Hallway, Unholy Knight, Gagool, Constancy Part Two, Constancy Part One, Floating Cities, Villainous Treachery" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech. com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

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"The Nightmare Before Christmas" movie, illustrated book, and OST CD

#thenightmarebeforechristmas #animation #nightmarebeforechristmas #jackskellington #abitfrank
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Uhm, it wasn't that Jack didn't know about kissing, he just didn't know about kissing under a mistletoe. He didn't know about the little quirks of Christmas and was learning about that. But obviously he knew what a kiss was since he said "They kiss?".

melancholybobbyjoe
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_"One person's crazyness is another person's reality."_

*~ Tim Burton*

poweroffriendship.
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Jack is also in James and the Giant Peach movie in the underwater scene when they go to the pirate ship wreckage. Apparently, before he died - Jack Skellington was Captain Jack Skellington.

glenndavis
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I reckon being undead Jack n Sally just adopted a couple of stillborn babies found in the pumpkin patch. 🤗

OdysseyHome-Gaming
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I once had a fic idea based off a drawing I drew of Jack and Sally's potential daughter where she ventured to valentine's town. In that she was created by the doctor for them as a wedding gift. I should really try to write that out one day...

TheCantankerousMsKit
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The parts about Jack having kids is in the dvd too

grandshadowseal
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Doctor: YOU ARE THE FATHER!

Jack: *flips chair and runs out*

Tucker
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I DON'T CARE HOW MANY THINGS I NEED TO DO
THIS NEED TO BE WATCHED NOW

muchoomoorek
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In the poem Santa asks Jack if he would do it over again, and the reason he needs to think carefully is because Jack’s children wouldn’t exist if he hadn’t tried to take over Christmas.

mrs.donglover
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Fun fact: Vincent Price was originally going to be the VA for Santa.

Sad fact: Due to his wife's death and his own failing health, Vincent's voice became to frail and the recordings were deemed unusable, leading to Santa being recast. Vincent's voice recording's were never released and it's unknown if Selick or even Disney still have them.

edgyusername
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So, many years later, I thought I'd drop in,
And there was old Jack, still looking quite thin,
With four or five skeleton children at hand,
Playing strange little tunes in their xylophone band.
And I asked old Jack,
Do you remember the night,
When the sky was so dark,
And the moon shone so bright,
When a million small children pretending to sleep,
Nearly didn't have Christmas at all, so to speak?
And would, if you could,
Turn that might clock back to that long faithful night,
Now, think carefully, Jack!
Would you do the whole thing all over again?
Knowing what you know now,
Knowing what you knew then?
And he smiled like the old Pumpkin King that I knew,
Then turned, and asked softly of me,
Wouldn't you?

I have listened to the original soundtrack since I could comprehend words and Stewert's voice is imprinted into my gray matter with both this ending and the beginning poem.

vomrabenauge
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Jack: steals snow
Jack: "And this is sno-... where did it go? There's just a bunch of water everywhere!"

nataliewertz
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That title caught everybody's eye

weonsiel
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“Jack has kids. WHAT?!”
Ad: “I BEEN FEELING BABY.”




true story

rosem
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You know another theory that Jack and Sally could've had children is magic. Remember in the song "Jack's Lament" where Jack states "with the slightest little efforts of my ghost-like charms"? Just those lyrics alone gave me the idea that Jack could have possibly possessed magic, thus using that magic to impregnate Sally, and the magic itself forming a baby.

leiarobinson
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Yep. It's a known fact that he ends up having children (by the movie's ending, Jack has kids with Sally as she wasn't mentioned by name in the original poem). My elementary school library had a copy of the original poem that I borrowed nearly every Halloween, and with an added bonus of the librarian being a huge fan of the film and story; not to mention that the wiki also mentions it as well on many occasions.

shadetee
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Is no one gonna talk about on how cute her character is.

Hai_im.cat
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In an interview with Selek about the making of the movie, he mentioned pretty much every character design was from Burton, and the weird spiral hill Jack walks down was also all Burton. So a lot of the art in the book came from Burton himself

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I feel like I should mention that Jack has SOME fleshy bits. I mean, there is no way he could sing like that if his tongue was all bone, and we know his tongue. What's more, when we see the tongue clear as day when he scares Lock, Shock, and Barrel during the Easter Bunny scene, the INSIDE of the skeleton is rather fleshy. It is possible, however slightly, that he might have some working hardware.

As for Sally... Well, that's probably where this line of thought dies entirely. She's basically a bag of dead leaves. Up to this point, we know Finklestein needs to use SOME sort of organic material to make his creations, like bones for the reindeer or half of his own brain for the lady Finklestein, but we have NO idea what he used to make Sally. Maybe he used lady bits, maybe he used a spinal column, we don't know.

MuttonTheDragon
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I'm just curious what Thanksgiving Town is supposed to be like. Is it just a never-ending parade of Puritan colonialism and turkey slaughter?

Omnywrench